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  • #31
    Originally posted by disneysteve View Post
    Singuy, how is range impacted by driving conditions and weather? Hilly terrain, traffic jams, extreme heat or cold, etc. Do those things run down the battery faster?
    FL doesn't get very cold so my range isn't affected much. Electric cars does way better than a gas car in traffic jams as idling cost almost no energy besides running the Hvac. It is pretty common to have EPA city to be higher than Hwy due to more opportunities to regen, lower speed travel, and little idle penalty.

    Hot weather does very little to range and in fact is good for charging speed.

    Extremely cold weather drops the range by 20% I heard and also slows down charging without preconditions of the battery in which teslas will do that for you prior to arriving at a supercharger.

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    • #32
      Originally posted by Singuy View Post
      Extremely cold weather drops the range by 20% I heard and also slows down charging without preconditions of the battery in which teslas will do that for you prior to arriving at a supercharger.
      A colleague of mine lives in Minneapolis and her and the husband just bought a lightly used Model S. Will be interesting to see what kind of range they get now versus this coming February when temps drop into the negatives. I've seen them all over Minneapolis so I'm sure people do fine with them. Keeping the car in a heated garage at home and work should help.
      History will judge the complicit.

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      • #33
        Originally posted by ua_guy View Post

        A colleague of mine lives in Minneapolis and her and the husband just bought a lightly used Model S. Will be interesting to see what kind of range they get now versus this coming February when temps drop into the negatives. I've seen them all over Minneapolis so I'm sure people do fine with them. Keeping the car in a heated garage at home and work should help.
        Biggest range drops are attributed hvac trying to keep the cabin warm. The most recent teslas from 2020 fixed this using a new heatpump so performance is much better.

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        • #34
          Originally posted by Singuy View Post

          Biggest range drops are attributed hvac trying to keep the cabin warm. The most recent teslas from 2020 fixed this using a new heatpump so performance is much better.
          Singuy - Do you have a method for which companies you screen for possible investments? You've made some very good calls. But specifically how do you start the process of screening investment opportunities?
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          • #35
            Originally posted by TexasHusker View Post
            I guess one solution might be to make longer extension cords.
            Or haul a gasoline generator with you to charge it up.

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            • #36
              I think our next car will be an electric or hybrid small SUV. That won't be for at least another 5 years, so the technology and infrastructure have time to improve.

              We'll always have a truck. We'll always have our little roadster. If they make a cool electric roadster, that might be our first EV.

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              • #37
                Originally posted by james.hendrickson View Post

                Singuy - Do you have a method for which companies you screen for possible investments? You've made some very good calls. But specifically how do you start the process of screening investment opportunities?
                Start with companies that have lots of sell ratings and negative press. This will insure the stock price is suppressed. Then research the hell out of it beyond the headlines to see if all of it is justified. Sometimes you just end up finding a diamond in the ruff. The problem with this type of research is you are going against the current so that conviction comes only through your thorough research of facts.

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                • #38
                  Originally posted by Fishindude77 View Post

                  Or haul a gasoline generator with you to charge it up.
                  That’s actually not a bad idea at all. If you’ve got a telsa, toss a Honda generator in the back seat, run the plug in cord out the window, and just run the generator whilst driving around. The car battery probably won’t run out as long as you keep the generator full of gas.

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                  • #39
                    Originally posted by Fishindude77 View Post

                    Or haul a gasoline generator with you to charge it up.
                    Lol. Ev mandates come and all of a sudden everyone feels the need to visit their crazy Amish uncle who lives at the edge of civilization not plugged into the grid.

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                    • #40
                      Originally posted by Singuy View Post

                      Can you not put in 220v outlet for your house in rural IL? You'll have 350 miles of range every morning when you wake up...so unless you spend 6 hours in your car a day...I don't see how big of a problem this is.
                      Not sure what your obsession is with wanting to rehash my car purchase choice from a year and a half ago. I made a decision that was right for me at the time, I really don’t care what you would do now.

                      Do you work for Tesla? You mentioned “we” in your initial reply.

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                      • #41
                        No I hate to point out that you've always said how cheap and fast it will be to charge. Actually not true. I Don't get sun where I live so it's completely our $ to charge anything. Also no superchargers. And no it's where we live. It's 30+ minute drive to one. But more than that I know two people who didn't buy a tesla because they can't charge it at home. Home is condo/apartments.
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                        • #42
                          Originally posted by LivingAlmostLarge View Post
                          No I hate to point out that you've always said how cheap and fast it will be to charge. Actually not true. I Don't get sun where I live so it's completely our $ to charge anything. Also no superchargers. And no it's where we live. It's 30+ minute drive to one. But more than that I know two people who didn't buy a tesla because they can't charge it at home. Home is condo/apartments.
                          My only obsession is to be truth ambassador for EVs because there's just blatant fake news everywhere. I don't care what you buy, but it's also important to get people to understand that it's okay to not have a gas station every 3 miles because you now have one at home (and as transition continues, every neighbor you know will have a 220v charging station at home.)

                          And if you can't put one in your house, then just wait for infrastructure to build out. This is perhaps the biggest fear for this EV transition hence the push back. It's actually the easiest to solve unlike saying building our fuel cell stations in which you can't just spend 300 bucks and build one at home.

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                          • #43
                            My dryer outlet is on a common wall with my garage. I'm thinking of just tapping into that for a 220V outlet in the garage. Can use it for a nice MIG welder until I get an EV. Just can't dry clothes and weld / charge at the same time. I priced a dedicated 220V install and that was $1500. Wish I hadn't poo poo'd the option when I had the house built. It was $200.

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                            • #44
                              I don't believe that Govt can regulate a solution. Sorry. Guess I am in the minority. The market is far better at efficiency than govt ever will be. One one hand, the govt wants lighter cars to increase efficiency. Which as we know also results in more car deaths. And, then we have more and more standards for placing kids in car seats for years and then parents dont' have enough room so that often pushed them to buy big SUVs when you used to easily carry 5 people in a standard sedan. There is a push one way but that always seems to come with competing new regulations as well.

                              I live in a cold climate. It's not unusual to have some -20 degrees. A lot of people do NOT have garages, their cars are parked in the driveways outside. And, the notion that most Americans drive less than 40 miles a day, that is completely false in my area. Many people drive an hour just one way to work which would be 40-50 miles one way. And there is a huge environmental impact to mine what is necessary for these batteries in addition to the waste of dead batteries and what to do with those as well. And, we do not know what the environmental impact is to use electric cars on such a mass scale. So, personally I do not favor them.

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                              • #45
                                Originally posted by LivingAlmostLarge View Post
                                No I hate to point out that you've always said how cheap and fast it will be to charge. Actually not true. I Don't get sun where I live so it's completely our $ to charge anything. Also no superchargers. And no it's where we live. It's 30+ minute drive to one. But more than that I know two people who didn't buy a tesla because they can't charge it at home. Home is condo/apartments.
                                Solar is definitely not something you get so you can charge cheaply. Charging is already cheap at around 1/3 the cost of gasoline. Solar is a counter to those who believes EV just plugs into a coal power plant so it's not helping with climate change.

                                I have a bias toward solving climate change and will fight for even if there's 1% chance of positive difference towards this as my property is FL. No one wants to deal with a migration crisis within a hundred years. My home insurance already skyrocket because they are a business, and FL with all these cat 5 hurricanes make their business a loser.

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