What you should know about the outbreak of measles and its financial impact

[myrdale]

It’s sad and frustrating that this is happening when there’s absolutely no reason for it.

This is equivalently the exact same statement UAGuy made. Yours ended with a . while his with a ?.

[myrdale]

For the state of Georgia: Rule 511-2-2-.02 Immunization Required

(a)

Except as otherwise provided, immunization against the following diseases shall be required of all children entering a school or childcare facility operating in the state: (1) Diphtheria; (2) Haemophilus influenzae type B (not required on or after the fifth birthday); (3) Hepatitis A; (4) Hepatitis B; (5) Measles; (6) Meningitis; (7) Mumps; (8) Pertussis; (9) Pneumococcal disease (not required on or after the fifth birthday); (10) Poliomyelitis; (11) Rubella (German measles); (12) Tetanus; and (13) Varicella (chickenpox).

[Petunia 100]

There are required vaccinations (measles) required to enter this country LEGALLY. When the established legal channels are bypassed pools of infected individuals pour into the country.

This is the best argument against illegal immigration I have ever heard.

[Petunia 100]

For the state of Georgia: Rule 511-2-2-.02 Immunization Required

(a)

Except as otherwise provided, immunization against the following diseases shall be required of all children entering a school or childcare facility operating in the state: (1) Diphtheria; (2) Haemophilus influenzae type B (not required on or after the fifth birthday); (3) Hepatitis A; (4) Hepatitis B; (5) Measles; (6) Meningitis; (7) Mumps; (8) Pertussis; (9) Pneumococcal disease (not required on or after the fifth birthday); (10) Poliomyelitis; (11) Rubella (German measles); (12) Tetanus; and (13) Varicella (chickenpox).

Do parents have the right to opt out in Georgia? In California, they do. You just sign a waiver.

[Fishindude77]

There are required vaccinations (measles) required to enter this country LEGALLY. When the established legal channels are bypassed pools of infected individuals pour into the country.

Seeing some of these associated problems in a community near here where they've had a huge influx of immigrants.

[QuarterMillionMan]

Another kink to consider. Amish autism rates is 1 out of 3000 vs 1 out of 36 for the general public according to the CDC. Amish aren't required to vaccinate unlike the rest of us are, something to think about. I'm not an anti-vaxer maybe the Amish could teach us something. Or maybe the CDC is in bed with big pharma and clouding their judgement much like the FDA and the red dye.

[ua_guy]

Another kink to consider. Amish autism rates is 1 out of 3000 vs 1 out of 36 for the general public according to the CDC. Amish aren't required to vaccinate unlike the rest of us are, something to think about. I'm not an anti-vaxer maybe the Amish could teach us something. Or maybe the CDC is in bed with big pharma and clouding their judgement much like the FDA and the red dye.

The rate of autism depends on formal medical diagnosis. The Amish are unlikely to seek modern healthcare and diagnostic services compared to non. Until that factor is considered, conclusions about the prevalence of autism in different social groups are mostly wild guesses, or just observations.

As for measles, the rate of unvaccinated US children (citizens) who are contracting and spreading measles is alarming. The US used to do things like global disease prevention through USAID, but we can't do that anymore because people are convinced cutting 1% of the federal budget is going to somehow make them rich and/or great. Not really sure what people were waiting for all this time, that's like $2 per person. lol.

[Petunia 100]

Another kink to consider. Amish autism rates is 1 out of 3000 vs 1 out of 36 for the general public according to the CDC. Amish aren't required to vaccinate unlike the rest of us are, something to think about. I'm not an anti-vaxer maybe the Amish could teach us something. Or maybe the CDC is in bed with big pharma and clouding their judgement much like the FDA and the red dye.

Correlation and causation are two different things. There are more differences between the Amish and the general population than a requirement to vaccinate.

[disneysteve]

Once again people throw out these blanket statements assuming everyone agrees with their logic / politics and don't want anyone to respond. "Saying lets not go there" would have been sufficient. But no. Adding the "We all know the answer" is complete and utter BS.

You misunderstood my comment. Sorry if that wasn't clear.

The "We all know the answer" was referring to people choosing not to vaccinate their children (or themselves). That's it. Don't read any more into it than that. It wasn't a logic or politics statement. It was a straightforward fact. Skipping vaccination puts you at far greater risk of illness. When I said "let's not go there" I meant that we didn't need to go down the conspiracy rabbit hole.

[disneysteve]

For the state of Georgia: Rule 511-2-2-.02 Immunization Required

Absolutely, and children not meeting those guidelines shouldn't be admitted.

[QuarterMillionMan]

For Georgia's Hep A & Hep B, there are 2 ways to get infected by either sex or intravenous drug use. So why do 4 or 5 year old need this vaccine? A 5 year old won't be deciding to shoot up heroin anytime soon or having sex.

[disneysteve]

For Georgia's Hep A & Hep B, there are 2 ways to get infected by either sex or intravenous drug use. So why do 4 or 5 year old need this vaccine? A 5 year old won't be deciding to shoot up heroin anytime soon or having sex.

This is wrong. You really need to do some basic research. A simple Google search would have provided accurate information.

[disneysteve]

Also vaccinations in general don't necessarily stop the initial infection, they greatly reduce the impact. COVID or flu, you may still get sick, but you'll be worlds better off having gotten a vaccine (for the strain you were exposed to) than not.

Yes and no. You're correct that you may still get sick, but your risk of catching it is much lower if you are vaccinated, and the severity of the illness can be much lower as well. So the vaccines both help prevent infection and reduce severity if you do contract the disease.

Flu and COVID are tough because there are many, many strains and they are constantly mutating which is why regular vaccines are needed. Other diseases remain pretty much unchanged so getting one vaccine (or a short series) can give you lifetime immunity.

When is the last time you heard of anyone getting smallpox? Or a smallpox vaccine for that matter? You haven't because thanks to worldwide vaccination, smallpox was completely eradicated. The last known case occurred in 1977 and vaccination was discontinued in 1980.

[LivingAlmostLarge]

my husband had to get a second mmr in 20s as he was applying for his green card. shakedown as he had his vaccine records but they were "unsure" so he paid and got vaccinated again

[disneysteve]

my husband had to get a second mmr in 20s as he was applying for his green card. shakedown as he had his vaccine records but they were "unsure" so he paid and got vaccinated again

There's no particular harm in getting a vaccine you don't actually need. There's just always the risk of adverse effects. Vaccines are extremely safe but anytime somebody is sticking a needle in your body, there are things that could go wrong.