jobs the good bad and ugly

**disneysteve** · 10-21-2019, 06:08 PM

Originally posted by Smallsteps View Post

if I am willing to do the job why do they care i am " too qualified"

I used to wonder about this. Basically, they don't want to spend the time and money to train you only to have you leave as soon as you get a better offer for a job that's more in your field. They don't want to be your "until something better comes along" job.

My current job is the best one I've had. I'm treated well by my superiors. They respect my contributions and value my input. They pay me very well for what I'm doing. The workload is generally not overwhelming, though there are those days. And I really like pretty much everyone I work for. We get along well at work and we regularly socialize outside of work. This is the first job I've had where that was true.

**Smallsteps** · 10-22-2019, 03:49 AM

Originally posted by disneysteve View Post

I used to wonder about this. Basically, they don't want to spend the time and money to train you only to have you leave as soon as you get a better offer for a job that's more in your field. They don't want to be your "until something better comes along" job.

My current job is the best one I've had. I'm treated well by my superiors. They respect my contributions and value my input. They pay me very well for what I'm doing. The workload is generally not overwhelming, though there are those days. And I really like pretty much everyone I work for. We get along well at work and we regularly socialize outside of work. This is the first job I've had where that was true.

It often is the PEOPLE..
I have zero in common with any of these people and they are not a socialize type group. Some I seriously doubt have any sense of humor at all.
Perhaps that is why some jobs in this area keep re-occurring............. when i have looked online and thought about applying, If I hesitate it is filled then in a couple of months later same job pops up again. This is often a sign there is an issue. Sometimes the person they picked simply was not what they thought but I think more then not the JOB was not what the company portrayed.

The other jobs I have liked often had a person or two that were friends.
The superiors here love me think i am doing amazing work... either they have limbo low standards or they are just clueless.

This makes me have less and less respect for a company that operates like this.
Besides worrying they will eventually wake up and need to cut hard their waste i have little respect for no accountability.

**disneysteve** · 10-22-2019, 05:20 AM

Originally posted by Smallsteps View Post

It often is the PEOPLE..

Yes and no. I've seen people who were great when they started. Friendly, eager, raring to go. Then the job overwhelmed them and they quickly burned out and got snippy, cynical, and not any fun to be around. So the job can break the best people. My old job was like that. We were very understaffed so the 3 employees we did have were all overwhelmed because they were doing the work of 5 or 6 people. The problem was the practice couldn't afford to hire more people and we had a very small office so there was absolutely nowhere to put 2 more employees. We would have had to move to a bigger space which would have increased costs even more.

**Smallsteps** · 10-22-2019, 05:34 AM

I mean if you like the people you work with it can make up for alot of other cons on the job.

**disneysteve** · 10-22-2019, 05:36 AM

Originally posted by Smallsteps View Post

I mean if you like the people you work with it can make up for alot of other cons on the job.

Sure. What I meant was I've worked with people who I liked just fine when they started, but after a year or so of being beaten down by the job, they weren't that fun to work with anymore.

Also, at my current job even though we are busy, we still have time throughout the day to chat and interact and get to know each other. At my last job, it was nuts all day every day so there wasn't really that bonding time. It doesn't matter how nice the people are if you have no time to actually interact with them.

**bjl584** · 11-03-2019, 12:57 PM

I used to love the culture of my current job, but things have been changing the past few years, and not in a god way.

I've been kicking around getting a resume together to see what might be out there.

**Smallsteps** · 11-03-2019, 02:13 PM

Originally posted by bjl584 View Post

I used to love the culture of my current job, but things have been changing the past few years, and not in a god way.

I've been kicking around getting a resume together to see what might be out there.

I went through that before too. I thought it would get better but it just kept marching towards awful i was happy to leave.

I guess in a way this was a good thing for me to hear. I think any of us could be in a job that will change maybe become better or get worse.
i am finding ways to try to fill up day a bit more i am staying at least til january so i will make the best of it. I try not to think about leaving every day like i was and although i glance at job sites i am trying to stay neutral til end of year.

**Smallsteps** · 11-10-2019, 06:22 AM

I tried to start a new thread but it was not working but i was discussing in another thread about peoples choices on jobs. i recently discussed this in a different thread but the next day i spoke to yet another example people making choices and yet not seeing the disconnect they have. i will write out the items i have seen and could someone explain why? For as long as i have been working i have had friends and acquaintances whom had jobs or looked for jobs without looking at many options out there. To be honest until i started working for a staffing agency i did not even know some of the places that i was placed at existed, even though i drove by a few of them regularly. Or perhaps it was i did not fully understand what they did in that building etc. I work as a second income that allows savings and retirement savings above if we were living just on one income. i have the option to be selective if i want but see people everyday who are working for sole support and they IMO did not always looked past the blinders they put on to find what they needed. Yes what most people want $$ but depending on their situation there may be better options. i worked at a place that was union and non union both sides had a journey man cap on top of the pay scale as i was preparing to leave i showed a couple of people the rates for other jobs that paid the cap level as STARTING level so there was a higher scale and these people often froze worried about the level of vacation days they had now or what if insurance was different. they built roadblocks right before my eyes. I have had many people who needed insurance ( before and after ACA) yet they took jobs that offered no insurance and complained non stop if they had any medical situation. If medical is important find a job that offers medical or perhaps better medical. A lady i am working with is trying so hard to be hired as a "real" employee but just like me she should have seen most that are chosen to change from temp to real are offered in a few months she is on month 18, i do not think it is happening. The third party temp place offers a plan. i know from others it is not great but about average coverage but i did not speak up and ask her why did she not sign up for that( maybe her premium would be high). I do not want to wade into her dysfunction but she obviously is planning for a maybe in the future. The company might hire her and then she will have items without thinking that she has a premium on that insurance, will she be able to pay that ? How long can she kick that can down the road looking for an oasis in a desert, that ends up a mud puddle? Meanwhile, she buys a lot of goodies and candy dish for the whole office and from the volume i see it should be able to pay a big part of any premium she would have. The same goes for retirement if you take a job the usually list out what they offer, If they have no program perhaps you can take the job if you can not wait but keep looking for a better fit. Yet each day i see or read about people whom have zero saved because their company does not have this or that.... IRA existed before 401K open a plan on your own. If you are seriously have a retirement plan on your list..... WHY did you take a job without a plan? If people settle for a job that does not meet their needs yet make no effort to find something else i am losing empathy as i see these items everyday and some leave or move up quickly and some seem to think if they stand still life will come to them.

jobs the good bad and ugly