Greenie Spills The Beans

[jmjj215]

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Wasn't there a study shown recently that that's basically how people vote for the president? I could swear I saw or read that somewhere.

[CRFSaver]

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Its very possible Jesse. I don't vote Republican or Democrat. I vote with who I think the best candidate is. Sometimes thats a Republican, sometimes a Democrat and sometimes a Libertarian (though no one can explain to me what a libertarian is).

[sweeps]

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Voting for the best candidate (and not for a party) is definitely the responsible thing to do.

But how do you know who the best candidate is? Everything comes down to photo ops and 30-second TV ads. When candidates are forced to talk about issues, they talk in the most general terms possible. And then even if they had a particular stance before they took office, special interest groups quickly change their mind with the almighty dollar.

[CRFSaver]

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Well one of the things I did like in California. On local election issues you coudl go online. and for different propositions they posted commentary from a group in favor and a group not in favor of the proposition.

[VJW]

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My sympathies if you are represented by this TWIT:


FAIRBANKS, Alaska (AP) - The federal government could sell bonds to cover the cost of disaster recoveries under legislation introduced by U.S. Rep. Don Young (R-Alaska). Young introduced the bill Tuesday and spoke in favor it on the floor of the House of Representatives.

"When a natural disaster, be it a hurricane, earthquake, tornado or flood, hits a particular region or state, the rest of us can often feel disconnected because it's happening to 'them' and not 'us,'" Young said. "Buying bonds that are specifically designated for these types of disasters can help bring together Americans and create a sense of patriotism."

"We must find a way to meet the inevitable needs that will arise after future disasters," he said. "We cannot continue deficit spending."


How does a U.S. Congressman not comprehend that having the federal government sell additional bonds does indeed “continue deficit spending” ?????

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[cercis]

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I don't think you can vote for the person anymore. Right now the parties have such control over their candidate that you are going to get the party, period. The democrats are more loosely organized, so you are more likely to be voting for the candidate with them, but ...

Of course, you can always go 3rd party. But as soon as 3rd parties start to gain power, we'll see the same result - parties pulling the strings.

CRF Saver - you're the only person I've heard say this. Everyone I know has had a flat or negative salary - no raise at all. We did change jobs and areas and got a raise, but raised expenses too, so it's a wash. Plus, a ton of people I know are losing jobs - my friends in IT, my friends in manufacturing, my friends at help desks. Oh wait, I have one friend who's gotten a slight raise, she's a foreclosure attorney and her raise has to do with the increase in foreclosures she handles.

[VJW]

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Oh, now that cercis brought it back up, I meant to go back to this and plum forgot.

As much as I can't stand Georgie, my income (salary and bonus) has gone up more under him then at any time in my career...

Surely you’re aware that there is no correlation, given that the vast overwhelming majority of Americans have seen their incomes go backwards in each and every one of the years he has been in office ?

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[VJW]

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Clueless Is As Clueless Does


From the weblog of Daniel Gross:



DEBT BE NOT PROUD

This is scary. Allan Hubbard, President Bush's top economic adviser, professes not to know the size of the national debt. From yesterday's White House press briefing.

Q: Al, can I ask you one? I can't remember the last time the President spoke about the national debt, which is now over $8 trillion. Is that something you guys worry about?

DIRECTOR HUBBARD: Well, I don't know where your $8 trillion comes from, but we --

Q: The public website.

DIRECTOR HUBBARD: Well, I guess it really depends on what you're including, but let me -- again, the President is most concerned about the economy and the budget. And a key component of that, as I have spoken earlier, is the budget deficit. And, you know, that's what contributes to the overall budget debt, the country's debt, and that's why it's so important to reduce the budget deficit and, hopefully, ultimately, eliminate the budget deficit.

Q: Does the magnitude of the national debt disturb you?

DIRECTOR HUBBARD: Actually, again, I don't know what numbers you're using, but the current budget debt is not a problem, but we do not want it to grow as a percentage of the GDP. That's the way you want to look at it, is the debt as a percentage of GDP. And our budget debt is lower than many other developed countries. The President is committed to keeping it low; that's why he wants to cut the budget deficit in half by 2009. . . . .

Q: Check the Bureau of Public Debt website, you'll see the number there.

DIRECTOR HUBBARD: Okay, thank you.



In case, he's still looking, the link is right HERE. And the debt is actually now more than $8.1 trillion.

Given that the debt limit is $8.184 trillion, we're only a few weeks from crashing throught the limit yet again. Merry Christmas!

DANIEL GROSS

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