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    I've been contributing to my company's Roth IRA (401K) since day one. Half of my contribution to company's stock and the other half go into blended fund investments. But recently their stock keep going down and I'm losing money every day. Please input some advice.

    Thanks so much

  • #2
    Immediately start reducing exposure to your company's stock.

    2 reasons:
    (1) You already depend on your company for a paycheck and benefits. If your company runs into financial difficulties, you could lose your paycheck, benefits, and half of your retirement fund, all in one fell swoop.
    (2) You should never have 50% of your portfolio in one company, period -- regardless of how confident you are in that company's success.

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    • #3
      [QUOTE=sweeps;188130]Immediately start reducing exposure to your company's stock.

      2 reasons:
      (1) You already depend on your company for a paycheck and benefits. If your company runs into financial difficulties, you could lose your paycheck, benefits, and half of your retirement fund, all in one fell swoop.
      (2) You should never have 50% of your portfolio in one company, period -- regardless of how confident you are in that company's success.[/QUOT
      I have to agree. Everyone should remember those poor folks that invested in Emron that lost everything because they believed their company's stock was solid. Who knows where the next fall out like this will be.
      "Those who can't remember the past are condemmed to repeat it".- George Santayana.

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      • #4
        You will want to check to see your companies rules on their matching contributions. A lot of companies match in their stock. Some of them do not let you re-distribute those funds for a certain amount of time. Others, let you redistribute immediately. My previous employer initially would not allow for reallocation of comapny funds. After the Enron debacle, that loosend and they allowed those over 40 to reallocate. I think they got flack for putting an age on this and then ended up allowing people to reallocate at any time. They would always match in company funds and then it was up to the employee to go back in and reallocate. I would go online and reallocate the company stock about every quarter.

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        • #5
          I agree. Stop buying company stock with your contributions. You may want to consider selling some of the stock you already hold, but that would depend on how much you have, how old you are, what company we're talking about and how much value it has already lost.
          Steve

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          • #6
            Should I put 100% into bond investment?

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            • #7
              Originally posted by Zillionaire View Post
              Should I put 100% into bond investment?
              Not unless you are 90 years old.
              Steve

              * Despite the high cost of living, it remains very popular.
              * Why should I pay for my daughter's education when she already knows everything?
              * There are no shortcuts to anywhere worth going.

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              • #8
                Seriously, how you should allocate your 401k depends on a lot of factors.

                How old are you?
                Are you married?
                What other investments do you have?
                Do you have any pension plan?

                I don't think anyone should be 100% bonds in their retirement portfolio.
                Steve

                * Despite the high cost of living, it remains very popular.
                * Why should I pay for my daughter's education when she already knows everything?
                * There are no shortcuts to anywhere worth going.

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                • #9
                  Originally posted by disneysteve View Post
                  Not unless you are 90 years old.
                  Just wanted to say that that made me laugh out loud.

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                  • #10
                    Originally posted by Broken Arrow View Post
                    Just wanted to say that that made me laugh out loud.
                    You're welcome.
                    Steve

                    * Despite the high cost of living, it remains very popular.
                    * Why should I pay for my daughter's education when she already knows everything?
                    * There are no shortcuts to anywhere worth going.

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                    • #11
                      Do you think the stock price is going down because you work for a bad company or because 499 of the 500 stocks in S&P 500 went down on same day (bad news everywhere)? I am trying to remember the one stock which went up and I forget which one it was (I digress).

                      If you sell, you admit you lost money.
                      If you wait, you have a chance to recoup losses

                      Each time you bought, you accumulated more shares. That is a good thing. Then you reap the profits on the way up.

                      I am down 30% across the board this year. My company stock (lost about 5%) is my best performer outside of my bond funds.

                      I like 5-10% allocated to company stock if you work for a good company (I do). My wife also works for a good company and we allocate 5% of her 401k to her company stock. Both stocks pay dividends and are among the best companies in the world.

                      --

                      You have 50% going to a balanced fund and it lost money- are you looking to change that too?

                      My advice- keep 50% going to balanced fund
                      put 45% of new money into 2 or 3 other funds (large cap, small cap and international)
                      put 5% into company stock (assuming it is a good company).

                      Wait 2 years, then come back and ask me what to do with company stock.

                      If you work for a bad company, find a new job now and roll this into an IRA.

                      You only lost money on paper thus far. More than 1 trillion was lost on paper during this credit debacle (or so I read). You are not alone. You only realize your share of the loss if you follow the advice other posters said by selling your shares now.
                      Last edited by jIM_Ohio; 10-03-2008, 04:21 PM.

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                      • #12
                        I disagree with Jim. I don't care how enamored someone is with a company; you should not have half of your portfolio in one stock. Start reducing your investment in your company's stock now. AND change your future contribution.

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                        • #13
                          I can see both side here.... Perhaps somewhere middle of the road? Sell them in regular increments? Kind of like DCA in reverse.

                          It would also help to know what this exact company this is. Stock-wise, is this one that's going down the tubes, and therefore,it would be best to eliminate the stock position as soon as possible, or is this one that have a lot of upside potential, and could afford to hang on to them a little longer?

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                          • #14
                            Don't sell anything, let them ride, every stock and every company has its days in doghouse. But you certainly have to reduce that 50% to about 15% max.

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                            • #15
                              Originally posted by Snave View Post
                              You will want to check to see your companies rules on their matching contributions. A lot of companies match in their stock. Some of them do not let you re-distribute those funds for a certain amount of time. Others, let you redistribute immediately. My previous employer initially would not allow for reallocation of comapny funds. After the Enron debacle, that loosend and they allowed those over 40 to reallocate. I think they got flack for putting an age on this and then ended up allowing people to reallocate at any time. They would always match in company funds and then it was up to the employee to go back in and reallocate. I would go online and reallocate the company stock about every quarter.
                              Snave,
                              I believe you are right about the rule change. My DH is now allowed to invest the company match in anything.

                              I recently read an article about company stock ownership and what a psychological barrier folks have to diversifying their own company stock. Sure, Enron tanked, but not my company... ( Even folks in large financial companies who study financial stuff in college and you would think knew better. )
                              But, low and behold I found I had the same trouble with DH's 401k. Another thing I was worried about was did they keep track of the amount of money the employee kept in company match as a possible loyalty check? I discussed it with DH (since it is his money technically ). DH said to go with the best financial management of the money and don't worry about a possible loyalty meter.
                              I worried that I was making the right decision (I know folks who were in MSFT early on--employee stock ownership enabled them to be very secure and gave them economic freedom I can only admire.) But, DH's company is no MSFT (in the early years) and I finally put him 100% (all past contributions, all new contributions and company match) into one of those retirement target funds. Surprise--once I did it, I haven't had the slightest desire to adjust any of it back to company stock.
                              In view of the stock market volitility right now, I would be hesitant to make any large moves (with existing contributions--unless you think your company isn't going to come back), but you could make changes to your future contribution allocations. You could also plan to pare back your % of company stock, but not all at once.
                              Last edited by Like2Plan; 10-04-2008, 06:04 AM.

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