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  • Good start to 2nd quarter on Wall St.

    Market is up over 300 points at the moment. Not a bad way to start the 2nd quarter. I hope this is a sign of things to come, but I suspect we'll just keep going on the volatility rollercoaster we've been on for a while now.
    Steve

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    I think this quarter will be better than last (yeah, I'm a genius for making this call - ha!). I'm starting to think about moving some of my Roth cash into the market.

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    • #3
      Slug, you'll miss out if you're sitting on the sideline.

      Steve, I'm actually bummed about the the boost today... I want stocks to stay depressed longer But I am happy that my monthly contribution went in yesterday and not today.

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      • #4
        Originally posted by sweeps View Post
        Steve, I'm actually bummed about the the boost today... I want stocks to stay depressed longer But I am happy that my monthly contribution went in yesterday and not today.
        Yeah, but it'll probably drop 400 points tomorrow if recent history is any guide. Besides, when I retire in 20 years what the market did yesterday or today or tomorrow really won't have any bearing on the final outcome.
        Steve

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        * Why should I pay for my daughter's education when she already knows everything?
        * There are no shortcuts to anywhere worth going.

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        • #5
          whatever it does, I am all in. I have been all in since I started investing and do not plan on changing course because of some short term roller coaster rides.

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          • #6
            Originally posted by disneysteve View Post
            what the market did yesterday or today or tomorrow really won't have any bearing on the final outcome.
            Well it has some bearing. If I only buy in at local highs, I will have less in the long run than if I buy at local lows. 30 years from now those differences will add up.

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            • #7
              Originally posted by sweeps View Post
              Well it has some bearing. If I only buy in at local highs, I will have less in the long run than if I buy at local lows. 30 years from now those differences will add up.

              This is true... I am considering a 401k self directed brokerage strategy where 25-33% of my money is invested more aggressively.

              One of funds I will use is ULPIX (Ultrabull) which is 2X daily return of S&P 500. My thought is I do NOT want to lump sum into this fund.

              So I will have ~40k in brokerage. ULPIX would be 15% of this based on my asset allocation (15% of 40k is $6000). So maybe I invest 12 times ($500 each month) based on where the market is relative to last quarters performance (try to buy at a relative low).

              The issue is then I have all 6k invested by end of year, and then would not be able to average in again the next year (because contributions are only 7-8k, so 15% of that is $1200 for whole year.

              Volatility creates opportunities for higher returns, if you have the cash to get in at the lows.

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              • #8
                All this happy stock performance ain't boding well for my silver!

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                • #9
                  Originally posted by sweeps View Post
                  Slug, you'll miss out if you're sitting on the sideline.
                  Sweeps, I just quit my job and am relocating my family (check my blog). Thus, I prefer to stay liquid in the event that I need to tap these Roth funds if for some reason my EF runs out. If I were to jump in and then out, I'm afraid any gains would be eaten up by the trading costs. I continue to participate fully in the market through my 401k (at least until my last day 4/18 :-)

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                  • #10
                    Fair enough, Slug.

                    How many times a day do you say "check my blog"?

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                    • #11
                      Originally posted by Scanner View Post
                      All this happy stock performance ain't boding well for my silver!
                      The market is happy when they dilute a bank/brokerage's share base and really is oblivious to earnings growth and fundamentals.

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                      • #12
                        I rebalance my portfolio last week, moving into the S&P 500.

                        I have also started getting into financials and am starting to look at REITs. I think the REITs have also bottomed out. Good luck. There will probably be another couple hundred point down day this week to retest the buying but I think the general trend is up.

                        From a technicla side, my support levels have held and the trend has turned short term.

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                        • #13
                          Originally posted by sweeps View Post
                          Fair enough, Slug.

                          How many times a day do you say "check my blog"?
                          Ha! As many times as it's relevant my friend.

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                          • #14
                            Please don't tell me the train has left the station. I'm not ready yet!

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