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    Even though I'm always full of good advice for others, I must admit I don't always follow it myself.

    Many years ago, I opened a brokerage account with Olde Discount. They were one of the main discounters at the time - this was before the Internet. And that's who my dad used, so it seemed like the way to go at the time. They were later bought out by H&R Block. I've kept my account with them in which I hold 4 individual stocks and a small money market fund. The total value of the account is less than 20K.

    My problem is that H&R charges me a quarterly account fee because my assets are below a certain level. I'm honestly not sure what that figure is, so that's the first thing I need to find out. If the amount needed to avoid the quarterly fee is not far above my current balance, like 25K, I could just add that much to my account to avoid the fee going forward. I actually have my eye on a couple of stocks that I might want to buy anyway. H&R's commission is higher than the online discounters now, but considering that buying through them could also eliminate the quarterly fee, I think it would be worth it.

    If, however, the balance needed to avoid the fee is much higher than 25K, like maybe 50K, I would consider moving the account. How do I go about doing that and where would you recommend I go? I used to have an Ameritrade account but I closed it a few years ago. I currently have no other brokerage accounts.

    I do have a lot of money with Vanguard. I was just browsing at their site and I know they have a brokerage too and I could transfer my H&R account to them. It appears that they charge a $30 annual fee for their brokerage accounts (which is half of the $60 I'm paying H&R). I won't have enough with them anytime soon to qualify for Voyager status ($250,000) which would eliminate the fee. But I'd still be paying $30/year which seems like a waste.

    Sorry to drone on so long. I'm open to ideas and suggestions. Thanks.
    Steve

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    * Why should I pay for my daughter's education when she already knows everything?
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  • #2
    One suggestion... move it to Scottrade. Good customer service, no annual fees, no maintenance fees, $7 trades.

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    • #3
      I'd agree with Sweeps and check out Scottrade. $7 trades and they have no account maintenance fees. Another possible plus is they have an office in Marlton on Route 70 if you're near there. Not that you would need to go there, but it's nice to know one's near by if for some reason you'd like to talk to someone in person.
      The easiest thing of all is to deceive one's self; for what a man wishes, he generally believes to be true.
      - Demosthenes

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      • #4
        I concur with the previous posters. Vanguard charges $30 account maintenance fee for accounts with balances below $250,000, and their commissions are also high ($25 per trade). I use Fidelity Brokerage, since I have my 401(k) account with them and that balance helps me qualify for a better commission level, so I am paying $10.95 per trade. Their standard rate is $19.95, which is still lower than Vanguard's. Also, Fidelity doesn't charge any account maintenance fee, regardless of the account balance. But in your case, I think Scottrade would make the most sense. I only heard good things about Scottrade, and was actually considering opening an account with them in the past, but opted in favor of Fidelity because I like the convenience of having all my investments in one place.

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        • #5
          Thanks folks. Looks like Scottrade is the way to go. Do I need to notify H&R in any way or will Scottrade handle everything involved in the transfer?

          The local office is near me, kv968. I think I might like to go in person to set up the account and transfer the funds. After that, I'd be fine managing everything online.

          Every few years, I go through a phase where I get the urge to buy some individual stocks. Last time, I did it with Ameritrade. Made some money and got it out of my system. Now I feel like doing it again, so $7 trades sound good to me.
          Steve

          * Despite the high cost of living, it remains very popular.
          * Why should I pay for my daughter's education when she already knows everything?
          * There are no shortcuts to anywhere worth going.

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          • #6
            Scottrade should be able to take care of the transfer. Here's what they require for a transfer and their downloadable account transfer form you could print and fill out to take with you:
            Transfer steps

            Of course if you're going into a branch office you should just give them a call and make sure exactly what documents you have to bring.

            I was thinking of starting an account with them also so let me know how it goes. I would do everything online too but would probably go to their office to open an account since they also have an office in Princeton where I work.

            Oh yeah, any good stock tips?
            The easiest thing of all is to deceive one's self; for what a man wishes, he generally believes to be true.
            - Demosthenes

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            • #7
              Scottrade is where I keep my ETF.

              It will take about 2 weeks for everything to go through.

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              • #8
                Originally posted by Scanner View Post
                Scottrade is where I keep my ETF.

                It will take about 2 weeks for everything to go through.
                How has your experience been with them Scanner, good? $7 trades, no hidden fees or anything?
                The easiest thing of all is to deceive one's self; for what a man wishes, he generally believes to be true.
                - Demosthenes

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                • #9
                  I use Scottrade 7k in the accounts and no fees like on Etrade

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                  • #10
                    KV,

                    Nope - no hidden fees so far - only been with them 3 months though. It did take awhile to execute the liquidation of my mutual fund and transfer into an ETF though. So much so, I actually changed what I was going to buy - an oil ETF originally and I bought silver ETF instead (oil shot up $5.00/barrel in the middle of that time). So, I was a bit ticked - I'd be up 20% if I had bought oil at $50/barrel as I originally wanted.

                    Who knows though?

                    You know how it goes - they are banking on the fact that I will be undisiplined and make trades rather than "buy and hold." So, I wouldn't be too surprised if from 1 or 2 years from now, they change policy and say, "Gee, well, if you don't execute at least 10 trades per year, you have this minimum."

                    That is, I"m sure they are not getting rich off of me holding my ETF for $7.00. When they get enough cheapos like me and DisneySteve, they'll change the rules, LOL.

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                    • #11
                      I'll be buy and hold too so they won't be getting any richer off of me either.

                      And what's this with an oil ETF, Scanner? I thought you were a silver man through and through
                      The easiest thing of all is to deceive one's self; for what a man wishes, he generally believes to be true.
                      - Demosthenes

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                      • #12
                        Originally posted by Scanner View Post
                        When they get enough cheapos like me and DisneySteve, they'll change the rules, LOL.
                        I'll apologize in advance if I contribute to any future rule changes by my lack of trading once I open my account with them. LOL. I'm only looking to escape the $60/year fee I'm currently paying. I could make 8 trades/year (which I won't) with Scottrade and still be ahead by a few dollars.
                        Steve

                        * Despite the high cost of living, it remains very popular.
                        * Why should I pay for my daughter's education when she already knows everything?
                        * There are no shortcuts to anywhere worth going.

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                        • #13
                          And what's this with an oil ETF, Scanner? I thought you were a silver man through and through

                          I was on the fence about it - when it shot up to $55.00 during my transfer, I just decided on silver. I was just trying to go with a commodity.

                          Since then, I have concluded that oil is best traded; silver is best held.

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                          • #14
                            BTW, actually, I bet I use Scottrade for more than $7.00 - once/year I will probably rebalance my portfolio.

                            If my silver tanks, I'll buy more. ..if it does phenomenally well, I'll sell and buy some other investment - either an REIT ETF or back into my international.

                            So, Scottrade will get at least another $7.00/year out of me, maybe even $14.00, LOL.

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                            • #15
                              i concur re: ScotTrade. the fact that they have so many local offices available to use in tandem with their online accounts is a big, big perk for me. they even have one in my town, about a mile from my house. woohoo! add that with their low minimum account requirements, and you've got a firm that doesn't get a lot of attention from new investors when perhaps it should.

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