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    Just had a conversation with my mom. We are both entrepreneurs and talk business from time to time. I just recently had a gathering of all my clients and just so happen to notice that I do business with White, Black, Greek, Jewish, Russian, Indian, Jordanian, Mexican, German, etc. However, me or mom have never done business with someone from China and there is a huge Chinese population here. My question is the following: Does the chinese culture tend to exclusively support other Chinese businesses?

    ***Please note, this post is not meant to be offensive. I apologize in advance if it is.

  • #2
    I think you have an element of paternalism with all races, whether or not anyone cares to admit it.

    I have a very good friend who is a consultant to a number of professional sports franchises including teams in the NFL, MLS, and MLB.

    For years, he tried to get the NBA’s business, producing proposals that he thought were simply unbeatable by his competition. After his third try, an NBA team owner told him in confidence: “Look, I appreciate what you’re doing, but Adam Silver isn’t going to do business with a non-Jew unless he has no other option. I hate to see you beat your head against a wall.”

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    • #3
      its nothing new, and not only the chinese.

      ole boy club?

      certain college alumni only doing business with each other?

      etc

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      As far as the asian population, I think a lot of them has experienced quite a bit of discrimination by outsiders, that they stick to their own. Hence the whole "chinatown" thing. Chinatowns came about as a form of protection in numbers from being attacked for having the gall to attempt to mix with other races.

      Because of a history of racism, theyre less likely to trust and do business with outsiders. So it creates a sense of "reverse racism", where if you aren't an insider, they wont do business with you.

      There’s an irony to these grievances, considering that Chinatowns in the U.S. sprang up in large part because of anti-Chinese racism, and because of legal barriers that prevented assimilation.

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      • #4
        Originally posted by ~bs View Post
        Hence the whole "chinatown" thing.
        This isn't unique to the Asian population. In many big cities, to this day, there are highly ethnic neighborhoods. "Little Italy" is a common term. The city where I used to work has an area called "Pollock Town". Teaneck, NJ has one of the largest Chassidic Jewish populations in the world.

        I think one thing that tends to keep ethnic groups tight knit is language. I see a fair number of Asian patients and many of them, especially the older generation, speak little to no English even though they've been in the US for decades. I would imagine that when it comes time to do business, they gravitate toward vendors and service providers who speak their language.

        By the way, even though I mentioned it myself, "Jewish" is not a nationality or ethnic group. It's a religion. It in no way denotes where a person is from or what their native language is. And there are a great many people who converted to Judaism but I'm pretty sure you can't convert to Greek or German .
        Steve

        * Despite the high cost of living, it remains very popular.
        * Why should I pay for my daughter's education when she already knows everything?
        * There are no shortcuts to anywhere worth going.

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        • #5
          Originally posted by disneysteve View Post
          By the way, even though I mentioned it myself, "Jewish" is not a nationality or ethnic group. It's a religion. It in no way denotes where a person is from or what their native language is. And there are a great many people who converted to Judaism but I'm pretty sure you can't convert to Greek or German .
          Good stuff there. There's always a lot of confusion over this.

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          • #6
            Originally posted by TexasHusker View Post
            Good stuff there. There's always a lot of confusion over this.
            Yeah, we get that all the time. "Where are you from? Are you Irish or German or Russian or Jewish?" Somewhere along the line "Jewish" became a nationality in many people's minds. And even though "Israeli" is a nationality, that's not what most people mean when they say "Jewish" (plus not all Israelis are Jewish). Very few Jewish people you will encounter in the US (or anywhere for that matter) will be Israeli.
            Steve

            * Despite the high cost of living, it remains very popular.
            * Why should I pay for my daughter's education when she already knows everything?
            * There are no shortcuts to anywhere worth going.

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            • #7
              Originally posted by disneysteve View Post
              Yeah, we get that all the time. "Where are you from? Are you Irish or German or Russian or Jewish?" Somewhere along the line "Jewish" became a nationality in many people's minds. And even though "Israeli" is a nationality, that's not what most people mean when they say "Jewish" (plus not all Israelis are Jewish). Very few Jewish people you will encounter in the US (or anywhere for that matter) will be Israeli.
              Reminds me of the time GWB referred to Greeks as Grecians.

              Bwahahahaha!

              I love GWB though.

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              • #8
                Originally posted by disneysteve View Post
                This isn't unique to the Asian population. In many big cities, to this day, there are highly ethnic neighborhoods. "Little Italy" is a common term. The city where I used to work has an area called "Pollock Town". Teaneck, NJ has one of the largest Chassidic Jewish populations in the world.

                I think one thing that tends to keep ethnic groups tight knit is language. I see a fair number of Asian patients and many of them, especially the older generation, speak little to no English even though they've been in the US for decades. I would imagine that when it comes time to do business, they gravitate toward vendors and service providers who speak their language.

                By the way, even though I mentioned it myself, "Jewish" is not a nationality or ethnic group. It's a religion. It in no way denotes where a person is from or what their native language is. And there are a great many people who converted to Judaism but I'm pretty sure you can't convert to Greek or German .
                FYI - Pollock is an ethnic slur.

                In regards to being Jewish, I recently had my DNA tested and it came back with a large percentage identified as Jewish. As far as I knew, I was not of Jewish descent. I found it interesting that it was identified as a DNA component.

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                • #9
                  Originally posted by moneybags View Post
                  FYI - Pollock is an ethnic slur.
                  To some, but that's actually the name of the area. Everyone calls it that, the residents included. They even have a Facebook group for the neighborhood and that's what the group is called. Nobody here views it as derogatory any more than Chinatown or Little Italy. It's just a descriptive term.
                  Steve

                  * Despite the high cost of living, it remains very popular.
                  * Why should I pay for my daughter's education when she already knows everything?
                  * There are no shortcuts to anywhere worth going.

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                  • #10
                    Originally posted by moneybags View Post
                    In regards to being Jewish, I recently had my DNA tested and it came back with a large percentage identified as Jewish. As far as I knew, I was not of Jewish descent. I found it interesting that it was identified as a DNA component.
                    That's really odd. As I said, "Jewish" is not a nationality. It's a religion. Anybody can become Jewish if they wish. I'd be pretty disappointed with a DNA test that reported "Jewish" in that way because that tells you absolutely nothing about where your descendants are from.
                    Steve

                    * Despite the high cost of living, it remains very popular.
                    * Why should I pay for my daughter's education when she already knows everything?
                    * There are no shortcuts to anywhere worth going.

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                    • #11
                      Originally posted by disneysteve View Post
                      To some, but that's actually the name of the area. Everyone calls it that, the residents included. They even have a Facebook group for the neighborhood and that's what the group is called. Nobody here views it as derogatory any more than Chinatown or Little Italy. It's just a descriptive term.
                      So you'd be ok with someone referring to NYC as "Hymietown"? (as the Reverend Jackson did a number of years ago)

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                      • #12
                        Originally posted by disneysteve View Post
                        That's really odd. As I said, "Jewish" is not a nationality. It's a religion. Anybody can become Jewish if they wish. I'd be pretty disappointed with a DNA test that reported "Jewish" in that way because that tells you absolutely nothing about where your descendants are from.
                        Adding some complication...Christianity's founder is a Jew, as well as all of his apostles. So they not only were Jews, but Jewish to boot.

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                        • #13
                          Originally posted by TexasHusker View Post
                          So you'd be ok with someone referring to NYC as "Hymietown"? (as the Reverend Jackson did a number of years ago)
                          There is a distinct difference between a term being used in a derogatory manner and not. In the case of Pollock Town, that's just what the area is called. It's what the residents call it. It's what everyone else in the city calls it. It's what the media calls it. It's what official publications call it. It's what city officials call it. That's the name of the area. If you don't refer to it as that, nobody is going to know what you're talking about. That area doesn't have any other name if you're trying to reference it in any way.

                          "Hymietown" isn't a commonly used or accepted name of that area and was being used as a clear slur in that case.
                          Steve

                          * Despite the high cost of living, it remains very popular.
                          * Why should I pay for my daughter's education when she already knows everything?
                          * There are no shortcuts to anywhere worth going.

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                          • #14
                            Originally posted by disneysteve View Post
                            "Hymietown" isn't a commonly used or accepted name of that area and was being used as a clear slur in that case.
                            What? The Reverend is...racist ?

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                            • #15
                              Originally posted by TexasHusker View Post
                              What? The Reverend is...racist ?
                              Shocker, huh?
                              Steve

                              * Despite the high cost of living, it remains very popular.
                              * Why should I pay for my daughter's education when she already knows everything?
                              * There are no shortcuts to anywhere worth going.

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