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    To preface this, I believe in good wages, and I understand some work is seasonal, and small businesses/contractors have all kinds of costs and they have to run their business themselves. I totally get that. I called a roofing contractor to come out and write a bid to have our roof cleaned. It's getting some moss up there and has seasonal debris.

    We have a 2800sqft ranch-style (one story) home with a cement tile roof, so, remember, in a ranch-style home, the roof "size" is roughly double that of a 2-story home of the same square footage, so I can see how costs can easily double. The roof medium (tile) is very uncommon here in the rainy Pacific Northwest. As such, there are few contractors who specialize and have knowledge about tile rooves. Because there is specialized knowledge. I suppose that might add to the cost when it comes to specialty work.

    The bid.....was $6500.... $650 of that is tax. Another $1000 is to fix a broken seal in a roughly 2x2 skylight. The rest of the money goes towards "applying environmentally safe bleach to kill moss," brooming/brushing of all debris, and cleaning out roof valleys, which involves moving the tiles in the valley aside to clean because of the shape and stack of the tiles, stuff builds up under there.

    As time goes on, I don't think I'll stay here forever. What's a composite roof cost these days? In 2 years of cleaning a tile roof I could arguably put on a cheap composite and sell the house down the road with a new roof good for 20 years.

    Thoughts? I'm in a market of constraint. He's the only shop around who touches tile rooves, because he installs them. Other outfits? Say tile roof and they'll say they don't work on those and hang up.

    History will judge the complicit.

  • #2
    Originally posted by ua_guy View Post
    He's the only shop around who touches tile rooves
    I think you just answered your own question. If there is only one single contractor in your area who performs this type of work, he can write his own ticket and charge as much as he can get. He has zero competition.

    I'd certainly consider other options. Get a couple of quotes for replacing the roof and see what those numbers look like.
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    • #3
      A new roof will be more than $6500. Maybe triple more.
      For cleaning, that does seem pricey.

      I'd be searching for a few other bids from roofers in the area.
      Tile is uncommon, but not unheard of.
      Someone out there should be familiar with how to clean them properly.
      Brian

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      • #4
        Originally posted by bjl584 View Post
        A new roof will be more than $6500. Maybe triple more.
        For cleaning, that does seem pricey.

        I'd be searching for a few other bids from roofers in the area.
        Tile is uncommon, but not unheard of.
        Someone out there should be familiar with how to clean them properly.
        If its only triple the price then jump on it quick. On a 2800 sq ft home in this point in time, id be surprised if its not north of $30k for a new roof.

        In terms of cleaning, have you thought about doing it yourself? You could rent a power washer, or buy one for $300-$400. After its sprayed down and cleaned you can buy spray that you put in a weed sprayer and spray your roof. If thats not an option then you pretty much have to pay the piper.
        Last edited by rennigade; 03-22-2022, 08:30 AM.

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        • #5
          Originally posted by rennigade View Post

          If its only triple the price then jump on it quick. On a 2800 sq ft home in this point in time, id be surprised if its not north of $30k for a new roof.

          In terms of cleaning, have you thought about doing it yourself? You could rent a power washer, or buy one for $300-$400. After its sprayed down and cleaned you can buy spray that you put in a weed sprayer and spray your roof. If thats not an option then you pretty much have to pay the piper.
          No pressure-washing Same as composite rooves. I'd get up there myself if it was composite, and I could keep it clean and healthy year-round. Tile rooves....there is no plywood sheathing underneath the tiles. The tiles overlap each other and the only thing between them and the roof trusses is a thin waterproof membrane. They can shift or crack when walked on, and that can permeate the membrane -- so there is real skill in just getting on top of, walking on, a tile roof. I'm not a frail guy, I'll put it like that. I shouldn't be walking on a tile roof.

          Oh, and the bid does not include $20 for each tile they break or find broken....lol
          History will judge the complicit.

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          • #6
            Originally posted by ua_guy View Post

            No pressure-washing Same as composite rooves. I'd get up there myself if it was composite, and I could keep it clean and healthy year-round. Tile rooves....there is no plywood sheathing underneath the tiles. The tiles overlap each other and the only thing between them and the roof trusses is a thin waterproof membrane. They can shift or crack when walked on, and that can permeate the membrane -- so there is real skill in just getting on top of, walking on, a tile roof. I'm not a frail guy, I'll put it like that. I shouldn't be walking on a tile roof.

            Oh, and the bid does not include $20 for each tile they break or find broken....lol
            Oh wow...those tiles are a different animal then. It sounds like there is a lot of labor involved in terms of cleaning everything. Well its like they say, pay once cry once. If this guy is the expert you are probably better off getting him to do it than some random contractor that says they can do, but never really did it before.

            $6500 is a lot cheaper than a composite roof on a house that size.

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            • #7
              Originally posted by rennigade View Post

              Oh wow...those tiles are a different animal then. It sounds like there is a lot of labor involved in terms of cleaning everything. Well its like they say, pay once cry once. If this guy is the expert you are probably better off getting him to do it than some random contractor that says they can do, but never really did it before.

              $6500 is a lot cheaper than a composite roof on a house that size.
              A new composite roof I'd expect to be $30k + But for 3 years of maintenance (cleaning is supposed do be done annually), I've already recovered roughly half the cost of a newer roof that I can maintain myself.

              For that bid, I could fly a roofing contractor up First Class from Arizona and put them in a suite at the W, and pay for a town car to bring them back and forth to my house, work on the roof, and then send them home.... There's skill in cleaning a roof. $5k of skill? hmm.
              History will judge the complicit.

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              • #8
                If it's not leaking, you can always let it go for a while and see what happens.
                Very poor choice of roof materials, particularly for the PNW. Tiles are for hot arid climates.

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                • #9
                  Originally posted by Fishindude77 View Post
                  If it's not leaking, you can always let it go for a while and see what happens.
                  Very poor choice of roof materials, particularly for the PNW. Tiles are for hot arid climates.
                  Right?

                  I have no idea why the original owner put a tile roof on versus something also costly like a metal tab or more suited to a wet, mossy climate. That said, it's 32 years old and the roofing contractor said overall it's in very good shape, in fact, he's been the guy maintaining it for the last 10 years or so. The roof is delivering on its 50 year promise, one fortune at a time, apparently.

                  There's a handful of homes in the area that have tile rooves, all put in in the late 80's. Must have been the same outfit selling an idea or a price point. I can't imagine they're cheap to put on.
                  History will judge the complicit.

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                  • #10
                    Knowing what we paid for the roof on our new construction home, comparing square footage and house style, etc. etc. etc. I think rennigade is right that you'd be looking at north of $30K for a new roof, possibly well north, especially when you factor in cost to remove/haul/dispose of the existing tile roof. Since you might be selling in the not-so-distant future, what would replacing the roof do to your resale prospects vs cleaning? That's what I think would be the deciding factor for me.

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                    • #11
                      I can't believe only $6500 for a roof. That's a stellar price. Steal!
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