In your state how much is medical or recreation marijuana?

[rennigade]

I don't understand why they don't package the products in a more dose-sensitive way. 1/4 of a gummy? 1/30th of a brownie? That's just asking for trouble. Why not package the product in single dose form?

I believe 5mg is considered a single dose, which you can buy. What your considering is called micro dosing. Not sure if anyone is producing that.

The bar I purchased was 50mg. It would have been nice if they made it like a hersheys bar...where you can break off squares equally. I know some do come in that form, but the one I had did not...so I had to use a plastic knife in a hotel room to cut chunks off. Not real accurate.

[Fishindude77]

Sheesh .... you finally get legal weed, now griping about the serving size.
Suck it up stoners

[disneysteve]

I had to use a plastic knife in a hotel room to cut chunks off. Not real accurate.

Sounds like a scene out of Breaking Bad.

If a dose is 5mg, then the product should come in 5mg increments. If they're going to sell it as a medicinal product, it should be treated like every other medicinal product. If you walk into CVS to buy Claritin, it comes in 10mg tablets. It doesn't come in a big block that contains 100mg and expect you to break off a piece each day. Regardless of what I might think about it, stuff like this contributes to it getting a bad rap. If they want it to be taken seriously and accepted, they need to up their game and be more professional about it, not sell a giant brownie with flashy graphics and cutesy names.

[ua_guy]

Sounds like a scene out of Breaking Bad.

If a dose is 5mg, then the product should come in 5mg increments. If they're going to sell it as a medicinal product, it should be treated like every other medicinal product. If you walk into CVS to buy Claritin, it comes in 10mg tablets. It doesn't come in a big block that contains 100mg and expect you to break off a piece each day. Regardless of what I might think about it, stuff like this contributes to it getting a bad rap. If they want it to be taken seriously and accepted, they need to up their game and be more professional about it, not sell a giant brownie with flashy graphics and cutesy names.

I don't disagree that edible packaging and "dosing" could be more 1:1 and easily discernible, but also, it's not medicine when purchased recreationally.

In the same way that alcohol isn't dosed and there aren't huge labels on vodka bottles that say "contains 15 drinks - do not mix stronger" and there is huge variability in the alcohol content. One shot of vodka has the same alcohol content as an entire glass of wine, and mixed drinks get even more confusing as to how much alcohol they actually contain, how they were poured, and how much someone can tolerate consuming.

Edibles are going to ruin it for the stoners. Every "first time" story gone bad usually involves edibles.

[disneysteve]

Edibles are going to ruin it for the stoners. Every "first time" story gone bad usually involves edibles.

I'm not surprised given the photos and stories shared here. QMM's picture is clearly labeled "FOR MEDICAL USE ONLY" and yet it's horribly designed for that purpose.

You're totally right about alcohol packaging, but that isn't being sold as a medicinal product. And even for recreational use, it's quite simple to measure the amount you want to consume. When I have a drink of bourbon, I use a measuring cup that is part of our bar setup so I can easily measure 1oz or 1.5oz and the proof (alcohol content) of what I'm drinking is clearly labeled on the bottle. I know exactly what I'm getting. There's no guesswork or estimating involved like there apparently is with many of the marijuana products.

If marijuana is going to be legal and regulated, it should be held to the same standard as other drugs, whether recreational or medicinal.

[Fishindude77]

If marijuana is going to be legal and regulated, it should be held to the same standard as other drugs, whether recreational or medicinal.

More regulation will just jack up the price. Some states already take a 100% tax on top of the vendors charge.
Drive the price up much higher and people will simply revert back to unregulated (illegal) weed.

Getting stoned is much like getting drunk, as it's supposed to be fun. People get stupid and over-do it with all kinds of things.
Don't blame the product .... How about a little personal responsibility / accountability?

[moneybags]

If marijuana is going to be legal and regulated, it should be held to the same standard as other drugs, whether recreational or medicinal.

It is regulated and labeled; similar to the proof for alcohol. The original story on this thread is a case of user error. This happens with alcohol all the time; which is much deadlier.

From the attached link:

"In most cases, drinking alcohol is not life-threatening. However, when people consume too much alcohol, it can be fatal. The CDC reports that nearly 88,000 alcohol-related deaths occur each year. And binge drinking accounted for about half of these deaths.

In comparison, the number of deaths caused by marijuana is almost zero. A study found that a fatal dose of TCH, the potent chemical in marijuana, would be between 15 and 70 grams. To give you an idea of how much marijuana that is, consider that a typical joint contains about half a gram of marijuana. That means that you would have to smoke between 238 and 1,113 joints in a day to overdose on marijuana. That’s a lot of joints."

[disneysteve]

It is regulated and labeled; similar to the proof for alcohol. The original story on this thread is a case of user error.

I agree that it was user error, but the packaging made it virtually impossible to take the appropriate amount. I can't accidentally drink too much. It's simple to measure liquid out of a bottle. It's far more difficult to measure 1/30th of a brownie.

[rennigade]

At least people who smoke weed admit that they want to alter their brain. People who drink think they're more sophisticated for some reason. None of those people could ever want to alter their state. Definitely not. People who drink just love the taste so much, they avoid getting buzzed at all costs, lol. This is how hypocritical this has become.

[ua_guy]

At least people who smoke weed admit that they want to alter their brain. People who drink think they're more sophisticated for some reason. None of those people could ever want to alter their state. Definitely not. People who drink just love the taste so much, they avoid getting buzzed at all costs, lol. This is how hypocritical this has become.

That gave me a laugh. That's risky, trying to compare the level of classy between one vice versus another. The one thing I do not enjoy about recreational legalization here in WA is the abundance of pot shops. They're everywhere To me, they bring the level of class to a neighborhood that a liquor store, tobacco vape shop, or 7/11 mini-mart that sells malt liquor does. These places are equalizers of society, and also where a lot of struggling people go to buy their vices. Not places you'd want to live next to even if you are a liquor or marijuana connoisseur, right?

I'm with you on the hypocrisy of the actual danger of recreational marijuana though. This is one case where I think it should be a states' right and it in no way deserves to be classified as a Schedule 1 narcotic as the federal government currently has it classified.

[rennigade]

That gave me a laugh. That's risky, trying to compare the level of classy between one vice versus another. The one thing I do not enjoy about recreational legalization here in WA is the abundance of pot shops. They're everywhere To me, they bring the level of class to a neighborhood that a liquor store, tobacco vape shop, or 7/11 mini-mart that sells malt liquor does. These places are equalizers of society, and also where a lot of struggling people go to buy their vices. Not places you'd want to live next to even if you are a liquor or marijuana connoisseur, right?

I'm with you on the hypocrisy of the actual danger of recreational marijuana though. This is one case where I think it should be a states' right and it in no way deserves to be classified as a Schedule 1 narcotic as the federal government currently has it classified.

I wouldnt want to live near any of those places. Then again, I dont want to live near any neighbors either, which we dont. But I get what you're saying.

I will say though, every pot shop ive ever been in is spotless and very "trendy" looking. I was surprised the first time I went to one in CO, how nice and neat it was. Im sure there are rough ones, but the 4 ive been to in different states have all been nice.

[riverwed070707]

I wouldnt want to live near any of those places. Then again, I dont want to live near any neighbors either, which we dont. But I get what you're saying.

I will say though, every pot shop ive ever been in is spotless and very "trendy" looking. I was surprised the first time I went to one in CO, how nice and neat it was. Im sure there are rough ones, but the 4 ive been to in different states have all been nice.

This surprised me too! Like everything in nice, well lit display cases with microscopes so you could take a closer look. I had no idea what to expect when I went to one but I know I did not expect a jewelry store experience.

[LivingAlmostLarge]

Very nice and clean and trendy. I have smoked in the past quite a bit and it isn't addictive and make you lazy. I'd argue alcohol does that on a greater scale and way more addicting. But pot? DH and I haven't ever gotten a high from edibles. We bought some once 10 years ago or something after it legalized and kept eating the damn brownie. I couldn't feel a thing and neither did he. We ended up smoking a joint to feel something. Maybe we didn't let it hit long enough but in my prior experiences i never seem to get any feeling from the edibles. But I would really hesitate to buy any candy or brownie or anything my kids could see and make a mistake. It'd have to be a one shot gummy edible I could eat in 1 sitting. And some of those brownies don't look one sitting. But why don't they make it single dose I don't get.

The taxes aren't any different than taxing alcohol or cigs. And I think less people smoke pot than vape which really appears to be killing you fast.

[moneybags]

I wouldnt want to live near any of those places. Then again, I dont want to live near any neighbors either, which we dont. But I get what you're saying.

I will say though, every pot shop ive ever been in is spotless and very "trendy" looking. I was surprised the first time I went to one in CO, how nice and neat it was. Im sure there are rough ones, but the 4 ive been to in different states have all been nice.

The 2 dispensaries I've been to are in nice neighborhoods. The shops themselves are clean and well run.

[moneybags]

. I can't accidentally drink too much. It's simple to measure liquid out of a bottle. It's far more difficult to measure 1/30th of a brownie.

Well, you aren't an 18 year old college student. You can't accidentally drink too much, but many can.