In your state how much is medical or recreation marijuana?

[QuarterMillionMan]

In 2016, California legalized recreational marijuana. Since it was legal, I gave it a try and boy did I get a bad experience. I bought a brownie ($12), and 2 stains of buds, maybe $35 a bud. I never smoked the buds and discarded the buds after ending up in the ER from the brownies. The package was clearly labeled "28 doses." So I cut the brownie into 14 slices (2 doses per slice). It tasted so good that after the first slice, I ate another slice (4 doses). It hit me like a ton of bricks and I got severe anxiety and it felt like my heart would explodes (age 50 at the time). And I could not function such as taking off my shirt or even dialing 911 struggling to press 9-1-1-send but somehow I managed. In the ER, I showed the medical staff the remaining brownies in the original package and informed them that I overdosed taking 4 doses. The Dr. gave me an IV of some kind of anti-anxiety which knocked me out. When I woke up I was clear as day and discharged home. It was a very costly experience when I got the medical bills, $2000 for the ambulance ride and $1800 for the ER charges. My insurance covered 90% but I learned my lesson.

[disneysteve]

legalized recreational marijuana

This is a disaster waiting to happen.

Glad you came through your episode okay. I'm sure many others won't be as fortunate.

[QuarterMillionMan]

After eating the first slice of brownie (2 doses) and not feeling anything after about 1 hour, I made the mistake of eating another slice (2 more doses) and mistakenly thinking this brownie is weak in potency and nothing will happen. Big mistake on my part. Needless to say I don't want any part of marijuana ever again (lol). At the store when I made the purchase they offered a free smoke of resin (the correct term might be tincture but I don't know) but I politely declined knowing I would have to drive home and that would be dangerous. The store was filled with smoke of customers taking the free smoke sample from a bong.

Edit to add: Shard or shatter might have been the proper term for the free smoke sample. It was yellowish in color which looked like a broken piece of glass which I think is pure marijuana oil which is smoked through a bong. No way would I have tried it knowing I would still need to drive home.

[rennigade]

Quarter, you dove head first in the shallow end. You should have started with the buds.

Lol, yeah...edibles are a different animal. Your body processes it completely different than when you smoke it. Much more potent.

I ate too much once, and I was at a restaurant in colorado with my wife. I already knew that if that happened, you just have to keep reminding yourself you'll be fine. In the moment, you do not feel fine! We had to stay a while cause I also felt like I couldn't walk, lol. Wife drove home.

As far as I know, it's impossible to die from smoking and eating edibles. I believe with smoking the LDL is somewhere around 40lbs or something. Not possible to smoke that much in one sitting. Now, if you smoke then decide to jump off a building, that's a different story.

Whenever we vacation someplace that has rec cannabis, I'll get some. I know my limit now. I haven't had any in over a year. My friends smoke it but I'm not willing to swap spit with those animals anymore. If I can't have my own, I'm not smoking it. #selfish

As for prices, I think the chocolate bar I bought in oregon was around $10. 50mg bar. I remember pre rolls in colorado being around $8/each. Def not the highest quality. It is expensive since it's taxed so much. But, the best part, you can fly to the moon and feel completely fine the next day. I could never do that with alcohol.

[rennigade]

This is a disaster waiting to happen.

Glad you came through your episode okay. I'm sure many others won't be as fortunate.

Do you get black out drunk each time you drink your whiskey? I forget if that's what you and your wife drink. Im guessing you don't get drunk each time.

Same thing goes for cannabis. You can take a single drag or two or eat 5mg, and get a small buzz and be back to baseline within an hour Or, you can eat too much like quarter and meet the devil. You have to know your limits. And if you don't, you have to start out small.

Adults should have the freedom to drink drugs (alcohol) or smoke drugs(cannabis.).

[btctony]

If anything I'm about to say is inaccurate, please correct me, Steve. I don't know what the regulations are as far as product labeling goes in California, but I've seen thc products from other states that are labeled with thc percentages and milligrams per package. A dose is a dose is a dose and two or four or six labeled "doses" could be the equivalent of one dose to someone who has a higher tolerance. If a person doesn't regularly use thc products, I'm not sure why they would take a double dose per product labeling. I'm even more baffled by the idea that someone would quadruple the recommended dose per product labeling, because it tasted good. It was understood what you were ingesting, yes?

If we take the total number of milligrams per package, and divide that by the total number of doses per product labeling, you could calculate thc in milligram per dose or slice of the aforementioned product. That is the number that I would be interested in knowing.

And lastly, a question for Steve. Isn't it possible that one slice of the brownie has a higher level of thc than another slice? I'm not at all well versed in the manufacturing processes or regulations of these products, but I do believe it is possible that splitting a brownie into 14 or 28 slices is an inaccurate way of splitting the thc content. That I would think is totally dependent on manufacturing process.

[QuarterMillionMan]

So true rennigade it felt like I was about to meet the devil (lol). When the proposition appeared on the ballots I voted "no" to legalize recreational marijuana because for instance I didn't want to be driving next to someone stoned. But when it passed, I figured why fight it and now since it became legal I figured just like alcohol I'm an adult and would try it but I had a bad experience.

[Like2Plan]

I was just reading this opinion piece: Marijuana Legalization Isn't Delivering What Supporters Promised | Opinion

https://www.newsweek.com/marijuana-legalization-isnt-delivering-what-supporters-promised-opinion-1580460

And, I was just about ready to say--it's not legal in my state (VA)....but, DH said the governor is fixing to legalize it by Jul of this year (I guess he has proposed some legislation). Marijuana use was decriminalized in VA last year.

It doesn't matter because I would not use it.

From the opinion piece linked above, "In reality, however, the pot industry is overwhelmingly controlled by affluent multi-state operators. Altria—owner of Phillip Morris and Marlboro—as well as alcohol conglomerates are some of the industry's biggest investors."

Every time I drive through Richmond, I see this huge Phillip Morris facility (I assume their corporate headquarters?), so given that I guess I shouldn't be surprised--perhaps, they are diversifying...

[rennigade]

And lastly, a question for Steve. Isn't it possible that one slice of the brownie has a higher level of thc than another slice? I'm not at all well versed in the manufacturing processes or regulations of these products, but I do believe it is possible that splitting a brownie into 14 or 28 slices is an inaccurate way of splitting the thc content. That I would think is totally dependent on manufacturing process.

Steve is a general practitioner physician, why would you think that he would know the manufacturing process for thc products?

Of course different part of brownies could have more thc than the other. We just purchased a bag of sour patch kids and it was crazy sour. The last bag wasn't that bad. Same applies for edible products. They're not perfect. One batch could be off. Again, it's a good idea to start small. Or don't take them at all.

[disneysteve]

The package was clearly labeled "28 doses." So I cut the brownie into 14 slices (2 doses per slice).

That's a serious problem right there. If one large brownie is 28 doses, you're depending on users to be able to accurately divide the product into 28 even pieces. I think that's asking a lot. You messed up right off the bat by only cutting it into 14 slices, meaning you were taking too much even if you only ate one of your slices, and then compounded the problem by eating two slices. They ought to package it in single-servings so that people can clearly and safely know what one dose is. It's not like pouring a drink that you can easily measure. Can you imagine if you filled your next prescription and it came in a big cube that said it was 20 doses and it was up to you to divide it up?

[disneysteve]

Isn't it possible that one slice of the brownie has a higher level of thc than another slice?

I suppose it's possible but unlikely to be significant. It's just like reading the nutritional label on a bag of cookies that tells you each cookie has 12 gm of sugar. Does every single cookie have exactly 12 gms? Probably not but the variance is too small to worry about.

[disneysteve]

Every time I drive through Richmond, I see this huge Phillip Morris facility (I assume their corporate headquarters?), so given that I guess I shouldn't be surprised--perhaps, they are diversifying...

No surprise at all. As smoking has decreased in popularity and social acceptance, those companies aren't just going to close up. They're going to find other products to replace tobacco.

[QuarterMillionMan]

This was the exact devil in the bag. My memory stands corrected, it was 30 doses, so I must have cut it into 15 pieces. Very dangerous stuff.

[rennigade]

This was the exact devil in the bag. My memory stands corrected, it was 30 doses, so I must have cut it into 15 pieces. Very dangerous stuff.

I like the name of yours more than mine

[disneysteve]

This was the exact devil in the bag. My memory stands corrected, it was 30 doses, so I must have cut it into 15 pieces. Very dangerous stuff.

So it's one big item that contains 30 doses? That's incredibly dangerous. How can they possibly expect users to cut something up into 30 even pieces. We struggle to slice a tray of normal brownies into even pieces.

And I love how at the bottom it says "NOT A FOOD PRODUCT". Gee, then maybe the wrapper shouldn't be covered in words like COOKIES and EDIBLE and CEREAL which all sure make it sound like food. I hope anybody with kids around (or pets) keeps this stuff under lock and key.