Have you been impacted by COVID-19 yet?

[Like2Plan]

I just received emails from Disney saying that the expiration dates on my annual passes (I have one for DL and one for WDW) will be extended by the number of days the parks are closed.

[kork13]

Overnight I got notification that my PCS move to Idaho is on hold, likely for at least a month. DoD issued a stop movement order (through mid-May) that basically restricts military members to staying within the local area around their current location, with non-essential non-local leave, TDY, and PCS travel cancelled/delayed.

[Thrif-t]

So far the virus has affected our college kids. DD21 is a nursing major supposedly graduating in May. Spring break is extended a week then online classes for the rest of the semester. She is allowed to do her preceptor but no word on what they are doing about clinicals and if she will still be allowed to do them, but yet she needs them to graduate and get her licensing from the state board. She's not having a graduation ceremony, it's going to be a "virtual graduation" whatever that means, they haven't said. She's pretty upset, but her brother is ecstatic that he doesn't have to sit through her graduation.

DS19 college has extended spring break through March 27th then online classes till April 13th, but I expect those to continue thru the end of the semester also. I'm worried about him being able to pass an online calc class that he is already having trouble with in person!

In Ohio, our Governor has closed the k-12 schools for 3 weeks and banned all large gatherings of 100 people.

My DH's work is closed down for 3 weeks for all staff, but as a manager he and the other management, need to go in to provide coverage. So he'll essentially be part time. My work is business as usual, but I'm part time and can hole up in my own office with my door shut when I'm there.

Our oldest daughter who works out in IN is working from home for the next 3 weeks.

The grocery stores are an absolute mess!! My DD and I were in Disney the 8-12 for her graduation celebration and trying to get groceries when we got back was like we walked into the zombie apocalypse! It was very dis concerning to walk in amongst all the people and chaos of empty shelves and people zooming around taking all the food. I literally had to hold back tears, I just couldn't believe what I was seeing and that this is happening in my world.

[~bs]

It's somewhat amusing to me that the rest of the world finally gets to experience what hawaii does when it comes to panic buying and hoarding basic supplies whenever a potential disaster looms. Happens here enough time that people are relatively calm when it came to this virus thing. Other locales that don't have possible doom swinging around every year seem like the panic a lot harder. The only things I did virus related was give away 3 clorox wipe packs (out of 5 pack from costco) and accept a small bottle of purell from a friend. I had happened to buy the wipes in january before it all started.

[disneysteve]

It's somewhat amusing to me that the rest of the world finally gets to experience what hawaii does when it comes to panic buying and hoarding basic supplies whenever a potential disaster looms.

What happens in Hawaii that triggers the panic buying?

[~bs]

What happens in Hawaii that triggers the panic buying?

Normally cat4 to cat5 hurricane barreling down on the islands, pretty much happens every year. There's only 1 port that accepts container shipments from the mainland, which is then disbursed to the other islands. If that port is disabled, no more supplies. 99% of the states supplies is by boat, 1% by air. Standard recommendation by the government is a 2 week kit on hand throughout the year

https://dod.hawaii.gov/hiema/public-resources/preparedness-information/

[disneysteve]

Normally cat4 to cat5 hurricane barreling down on the islands, pretty much happens every year. There's only 1 port that accepts container shipments from the mainland, which is then disbursed to the other islands. If that port is disabled, no more supplies. 99% of the states supplies is by boat, 1% by air. Standard recommendation by the government is a 2 week kit on hand throughout the year

You would think that after living there for a couple of years, folks would have it figured out and be prepared. I can kind of understand it in areas that don't routinely face that sort of thing but in a place that experiences it regularly, being prepared ought to be just standard procedure.

[QuarterMillionMan]

My entire department (public sector) will be working from home beginning next week. My department was doing it in phases to go mobile with about half the department being mobile before COVID-19 but now COVID-19 made my department fast track this mobile working from home deal which I'm looking forward to doing.

[LivingAlmostLarge]

Sigh. Yes and we are fine. But kids are out of school till end of April. DH is working from home indefinitely. Thankful he has a job. I have a job. It's not the death rate but the hospitalization rate. The hospitals are out of beds where we are. The staff is overworked. We aren't testing at a fast enough rate i'm going to guess to flatten the curve. I think we'll start seeing more cases. Also companies are hiding it. DH's company is hiding how many confirmed cases they have that have tested positive. I can confirm without a doubt not one of them has been in the news. So the number of cases is underreported. I also know a few other companies who have confirmed cases that are also not the news. Wonder how much they paid to get away with that talking with friends who know there have been cases in their buildings and companies and it's not in the news.

I have had clients who were laid off already from 1 week of the "shutdown". We are in a massive recession and it won't be easy to get out of. My hospitality manager had 40% of staff laid off February 28th including him to they could claim Unemployment benefits. My catering manager told me his marriott was at 18%. Everything where we are is in free fall economically. If you think it's not hurting people jobs are gone and going by the wayside faster than ever. Restaurants are shutting down. Jobs are being lost fast in many sectors.

I don't think we caught it early enough. It is definitely in the community but we haven't tested really. I have friends all over doing research and testing nationwide and in labs in Canada. They are by far ahead of the US. In our old lives we used to do this sort of research. And now we can see the problem. We were joking a couple weeks ago we'd be on mandatory quarantine. DH thinks we are a week out from it. We don't have a nationalized system to take care of the testing problem. So let's see how it all plays out.

Did you see the guy on jetblue flying from new york to florida? The mortality rate in old folks is higher than 14%. In one week 12 people died at Life Care in Kirkland before they realized it was covid 19. They suspect there were many more who died in the area and they didn't realize it was covid 19. This was the week before it came out and typical during flu season is 3-4/week

So we are definitely in a recession and it's hurting us big time. I am unsure how we'll end up on the other side but we'll see. I haven't had time till now and I'll check our portfolio later. I know it dropped a lot. We're definitely down 6 figures.

Guess we'll see how this week goes. Fingers crossed.

[disneysteve]

We aren't testing at a fast enough rate i'm going to guess to flatten the curve.

The number of tests done has nothing to do with flattening the curve. SOCIAL DISTANCING is what flattens the curve. STAY HOME. Don't go to restaurants. Don't go to movies or malls. Go out only when you truly need to go out. We need people who are sick to stay home to avoid infecting others and we need people who aren't sick to stay home to avoid exposing themselves to the virus. That's how the curve gets flattened.

The vast majority of people DO NOT need to be tested. Everybody demanding a test just strains the healthcare system. And don't believe the lies coming out of the White House. Testing isn't free. If you don't have insurance, you're going to pay at least $200 to be tested. If you have insurance, it will depend what your plan covers.

I have had clients who were laid off already from 1 week of the "shutdown".

Yep, and we're going to see more and more of that. My daughter's job was shut down yesterday so she's out of work for at least 2 weeks. She will not be paid during that time as she's an hourly employee.

We don't have a nationalized system to take care of the testing problem.

Again, most people don't need to be tested. It's great for disease tracking but it really has nothing to do with anything else.

Did you see the guy on jetblue flying from new york to florida?

Did you see the huge lines at the airports of incoming travelers waiting to be screened? That's where the problem is. It was the exact opposite of social distancing. Having people stand shoulder to shoulder in lines for hours was insane. I wonder how much virus spread happened because of that.

[Like2Plan]

The number of tests done has nothing to do with flattening the curve. SOCIAL DISTANCING is what flattens the curve. STAY HOME. Don't go to restaurants. Don't go to movies or malls. Go out only when you truly need to go out. We need people who are sick to stay home to avoid infecting others and we need people who aren't sick to stay home to avoid exposing themselves to the virus. That's how the curve gets flattened.

The vast majority of people DO NOT need to be tested. Everybody demanding a test just strains the healthcare system. And don't believe the lies coming out of the White House. Testing isn't free. If you don't have insurance, you're going to pay at least $200 to be tested. If you have insurance, it will depend what your plan covers.

Although, don't you think if you knew you were positive for covid-19 instead of experiencing seasonal allergies for example you might behave differently--like isolate yourself at home (which is sometimes difficult and stressful for the family). And, your family around you might take more precautions (like not go to work as usual, for example).

The test seems trivia as opposed to infecting others who potentially might need hospitalization.

[disneysteve]

Although, don't you think if you knew you were positive for covid-19 instead of experiencing seasonal allergies for example you might behave differently

The best plan right now is to assume you are positive and do what you need to do to keep from spreading it to others. If everyone does that, the system won't be overwhelmed and they won't need to call out the National Guard and order a nationwide quarantine.

[Like2Plan]

The best plan right now is to assume you are positive and do what you need to do to keep from spreading it to others. If everyone does that, the system won't be overwhelmed and they won't need to call out the National Guard and order a nationwide quarantine.

Are you taking any special precautions with visits to your Mom? This is not an idle question. I have family that lives in Seattle (including my 87 year old Mom who lives in a 55+ apartment). My sister and I have told her she is not to go out under any circumstances. My sister will make deliveries to her for anything she needs. But, my niece has had a long standing cold (or allergies or ??) nothing that requires a visit to the Dr. My Mom still occasionally needs things, but maybe my sister should not be delivering them to her? (But, then not sure her odds are better with any other random person in the community delivering stuff to her since covid-19 is in the community).

[disneysteve]

Are you taking any special precautions with visits to your Mom?

My mom's building is on lock down. All activities have been cancelled. All offsite trips, including the weekly grocery run, have been cancelled. No unnecessary visitors into the building. We've told her we will pick up anything she needs and bring it to her. When we do, I may just have her meet us at the door rather than us going up to her apartment because I want to limit her contact to us, too.

[tripods68]

My work has implemented social distancing and six feet away from people. So all non-essential work-related meetings have been canceled and encourage employees to telework. So I've worked 3 days from home last week. This week with school closures for at least 3 more weeks, I might telework more days. But have not received any new direction whether or not I am allowed to telework the whole time. So it will be interesting works schedules for the next month.