Feel sorry for job seekers

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I have truly been fortunate the last 18 years to have my own business. On a whim, I am very qualified for positions that require much travel, pay well, and is rather technical so I am applying online to 2 positions. I am excited because I am REALLY qualified.

It's exhausting. If they are trying to squash any excitement by having your apply, well, they have managed so far to dim my excitement.

Uploading this file in txt format. . .this one in PDF. . .need a password with a special character, number and letter in this one.

I guess I get it - it's not about me. . .it's about HR being able to sort through it on THEIR terms.

That said, the only reason I bring this up is the position I am qualified for may be considered a "talent" position in that people "recruit" for this position (or so it seems. . .I could be flattering myself but the position has a micro set of certs adn experience demanded). You would think they'd make it easy as possible. I can't imagine doing this 5 per day for all of you who have had to go through this.

Reminds me of Electronic Health Records. John McCain campaigned on that this was going to save us all money because it would save paper and make records portable. This was the answer to our healthcare crisis.

Instead, it just created more work and records are definitely not portable.

[ua_guy]

Well, that's what working for someone else is mostly about. You supply the talent, but you do it their way and follow their processes. Most online "career" sites are infuriating to use, but, once you realize most of them are all pretty similar (Taleo, for example) you get in the practice of being able to bang out a profile and upload your CV pretty easily. Word and PDF files are pretty standard formats for CV uploads. TXT, not so much.

Electronic health records I don't think were ever advertised to solve the "healthcare crisis" if you look at the crisis only through the eyes of money. It's brought more portability than you might imagine...for example, between multiple hospitals in a large "chain" of healthcare facilities like Kaiser or Providence, companies that span multiple states. Anyway, I digress...FYI not a defender of McCain here, but he wasn't the one that really started EHR anyhow.

[jIM_Ohio]

I have truly been fortunate the last 18 years to have my own business. On a whim, I am very qualified for positions that require much travel, pay well, and is rather technical so I am applying online to 2 positions. I am excited because I am REALLY qualified.

It's exhausting. If they are trying to squash any excitement by having your apply, well, they have managed so far to dim my excitement.

Uploading this file in txt format. . .this one in PDF. . .need a password with a special character, number and letter in this one.

I guess I get it - it's not about me. . .it's about HR being able to sort through it on THEIR terms.

That said, the only reason I bring this up is the position I am qualified for may be considered a "talent" position in that people "recruit" for this position (or so it seems. . .I could be flattering myself but the position has a micro set of certs adn experience demanded). You would think they'd make it easy as possible. I can't imagine doing this 5 per day for all of you who have had to go through this.

Reminds me of Electronic Health Records. John McCain campaigned on that this was going to save us all money because it would save paper and make records portable. This was the answer to our healthcare crisis.

Instead, it just created more work and records are definitely not portable.

Scanner, submitting resumes online is usually a fools game- 1 of 100 online resumes gets looked at? Most of the resume readers are automated- meaning a person is not looking at them anyway.

The best ways to get jobs is through word of mouth.
The second best way is linked in.

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Scanner, submitting resumes online is usually a fools game- 1 of 100 online resumes gets looked at? Most of the resume readers are automated- meaning a person is not looking at them anyway.

The best ways to get jobs is through word of mouth.
The second best way is linked in.

JIMOHIO:

the job was actually posted on LinkedIN. . .so what do you mean by it's a "fools game?" I completely get just sending in resume's. . .do you mean networking with other talent and mid-managers and recruiters at LinkedIn?

Last time I applied for a job, I applied 2 places, got called from both and made it to 2nd interview on 1 and not past the first on the other (wasn't in territory).

These position types are seriously posted all the time but I do get you. . .a referral from someone inside would be key.

I appreciate your thoughts.

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Hey Jim,

Just a small update - got an email today for a scheduled call with HR (I applied 3 places). Honestly, I am not posting that to throw it in your face so don't take it like that. . .but I am just posting this out of honest curiosity to the process.

I am just not sure I am leveraging LinkedIn the right way - should I be schmoozing people there?

[jIM_Ohio]

Hey Jim,

Just a small update - got an email today for a scheduled call with HR (I applied 3 places). Honestly, I am not posting that to throw it in your face so don't take it like that. . .but I am just posting this out of honest curiosity to the process.

I am just not sure I am leveraging LinkedIn the right way - should I be schmoozing people there?

Scanner, I don't know your background or skill set, clearly if you have key skills and are technical, the online resume submittal will be better than 1%.

In more common fields (Marketing, sales other), my ex wife would tell me stories about 1000 resumes submitted. The probability the resume is even seen by human eyes is low. How do you narrow from 1000 to 10 people to phone screen?

"Networking" to me means have coffee with someone you used to work with, or attend a trade show, or ask for a referral to someone with a specific skill set or demographic. For example, if you want to work for xyz company, ask a friend for a referral to someone which works there and have coffee with them, or if you want to work in R&D, then ask a former co-worker for a referral to have coffee with someone which works in R&D.

The job search techniques touted here locally are send out 5 resumes per week AND meet 1 person per week you do not know. The one person you meet is more likely to help than the 5 resumes you submit each week.

I do tend to believe submitting on linked in is better than 1 in 100, my background is mostly technical so the skill set is "rare".

[disneysteve]

Reminds me of Electronic Health Records. John McCain campaigned on that this was going to save us all money because it would save paper and make records portable. This was the answer to our healthcare crisis.

Instead, it just created more work and records are definitely not portable.

Totally unrelated to this thread topic but if anyone is interested in discussing EHR, I'd be happy to jump into that conversation if we start another thread. And no, I don't have nice things to say about it.

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Sure...go ahead and start. I know McCain didn't come up with the idea but his only solution to uninsured and escalating healthcare costs was EHR.

Anyone who works in healthcare knew this wasn't true.