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  • How Did You Become Debt Free?

    Good Afternoon

    I'm actually posting this in response to AUSGlobetrotter's question asking how do we become debt free over on another post- How Many of us are 100% Debt Free. I didn't want to Hijack that thread so I'm going to answer here- I'm sure AUSGlobetrotter would like to hear everyone's story though (and so would I!).

    My husband and I are in our 20s. I grew up in Australia but moved to the U.S. when I was 21 for a job opportunity. In Australia, due to the high cost of living I was already somewhat frugal- the only debt I had was my HECS debt which I paid off as soon as I could afford to (it's like a student loan). The one major thing that I did spend money on though was overseas travel- but I'm glad for the experience and I'm glad I got it over and done with when I had less responsibility.

    Since moving to the U.S. I've never been in debt- if I haven't been able to afford it in cash, I haven't bought it, which was generally the train of thought I followed in Australia as well. When I first moved to the U.S. I moved to St. Louis (which Americans will know is a super affordable Midwestern city) and was pleasantly surprised by the super low cost of living compared to Australia!

    I ended up getting married to a U.S. Marine and moving to a military town in North Carolina. Thankfully my husband has the same outlook toward money that I do and had never been in debt. About 3 years ago when he decided that the military life wasn't for him and that he'd be getting out at the end of this enlistment (which is up at the end of November this year) we made the decision to move back to St. Louis once he was out of the Marine Corps and save up to buy a house outright.

    For the past 3 years- we've saved his paychecks and lived off mine (and there's usually a bit left over of mine) PLUS we've lived significantly underneath our means.

    While his friends are renting $1000/mo+ apartments (which is in line with the BAH allowance of a little over $1100) + Utility costs, we've been renting a shabby little $600/mo house (my town is unfortunately expensive- $600 here is cheap) and have done without Cable TV or many other items of modern gadgetry (no iphones, ipads, ipods, gaming systems, tv, etc) in favor of saving money.

    So, a month and a half ago we were able to buy, in cash, a nice 2100sqft house with 3 bedrooms, 3 bathrooms, double garage on half an acre in a nice neighborhood in St. Louis County which we're in the process of moving to (as my husband is soon to be out of the Marine Corps). Even with property taxes, it's still going to be a lot cheaper than renting! It does need some work and cosmetic updates- but nothing too major, and we incorporated the necessary work into our cash budget.

    With that said however- I probably wouldn't have been able to buy a house in cash in a major city in Australia due to the atrociously high house prices there. My husband and I purposely chose to move back to the Midwest because of the reasonable cost of living. (St. Louis was ranked the #1 city for Cheapskates by Kiplingers).

    Other ways we've saved money are:

    -My husband was an Auto Mechanic before the Marine Corps, so we can afford to have older cars as he can handle most of the maintenance work / repairs.

    -I cook almost everything from scratch

    -I'm a Vegetarian and don't keep meat in my household, that alone is a money saver when it comes to groceries

    -I sew, therefore I can repair a lot of clothes and linens rather than replace them (or sew my own)

    -DH rides his bicycle to and from work every day to save on gas money

    -All of our furniture is second hand (awesome 1950s stuff!) and we got it all for a bargain. We rarely buy anything 'new'.

    -We didn't get into debt in the first place!


    So, that's how my husband and I have done it. I'd like to hear your stories as well! To AUSGlobetrotter- hope that helps!

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    I wouldn't have minded a bit if you hijacked the thread

    For us we started when we were young not buying what we couldn't afford to pay for on credit besides the house. We bought and paid for a mini farm we could afford back then. We followed the old rule to not have a payment of over 1 weeks take home pay for the home. We paid it off as fast as possible and never borrowed against it. That let us years later trade up to another home that was also 100% paid for.

    We do use our credit card a LOT but dont charge a thing we don't have the $ in the bank to pay for.

    Our income was very small for about 1/2 our marriage so I made it my job to micro manage the budget and expenses and make the best use of our $. (I still do but we can afford travel, college etc now.) Being now in our 40's these things have allowed us to have a very good nest egg that would surprise most of our friends since we don't have a high income.

    It is really important to separate what is really a need vs. a want when trying to stay out of debt.

    When we were younger like the above poster we had second hand furniture etc. Now in our 40's that isn't the case but laying that ground work back then let us be debt free and afford what we have and can do now. I tell you some of those choices back then were very hard when our friends were all getting news cars, brand new houses instead of used etc but it sure paid off in spades.

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    • #3
      Debt Free

      For me it took some strict envelope budgeting. I had to create a very "spartan" budget since I had over 20k in credit card debt. It took a few years, but I kept chipping away at it. But now I am completely debt free. I have to say it feels great!

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      • #4
        I am currently studying and have a HECS debt (it's actually called a HELP debt now). I use a debit card so I can buy things online without using credit. I feel like when I buy a house I will have almost no money after buying furniture. Did you all just buy really cheap second hand furniture?

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        • #5
          Thank you!

          Thanks Glamatomic - gather you guessed from my username that I am Aussie - and another coincidence is that I too lived in North Carolina a few years ago! (Chapel Hill - in Sydney now though)

          This is all very helpful - I only started literally last week on this whole debt diet of mine!

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          • #6
            Ramose:
            I sure did. Actually, none of my furniture is 'cheap' quality- it's all Drexel Counterpoint from 1956 and 1957 by John Van Koert (which is worth in the tens of thousands nowadays- even in the 50s people paid more than I did for it- new Drexel is also outrageously expensive) but I managed to get it all for under $800 over the last few years. A lot of people genuinely don't know what they have, especially when it comes to Mid Century Mod furniture as it's only just recently made a resurgence with the popularity of 'Mad Men'.

            If you scour the Flea Markets, Craigslist, Yardsales, Estate Sales etc and know which high quality brands you're looking for, you can often get real bargains. Obviously, sometimes people know what they have and price accordingly, but I've been lucky!

            Even though I think it's somewhat unethical to 'rip people off' (ie: spend $100 for a buffet that retails at around $4000 in a high end mid century antiques for) it's not like I'm buying it to sell. It's nice knowing the real value, but I have bought it all to use, love and live with.

            Second hand furniture does NOT have to mean cheap quality or shabby. You just really have to know what you're looking for, know your bands, and hone into deals when you see them! Also, don't be afraid to haggle. If someone either on Craigslist or at a Flea Market has more than one item that you want- you can more often than not get a discount for taking more than one thing off their hands

            Hope that helps!

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            • #7
              AUSGlobetrotter: Yup, sure did Definitely a coincidence that you used to live in NC! Chapel Hill is a super nice area! My husband is from Raleigh originally. Unfortunately though we're stuck in a podunk Marine Corps town. I *hate* it here, so I'm definitely looking forward to be getting back to St. Louis

              When I lived in Aus I lived in Brisbane- not as expensive as Sydney but still expensive

              I hope your debt diet goes well! We all have to start some time It'll get easier as you go along

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              • #8
                Originally posted by glamatomic View Post
                Ramose:
                I sure did. Actually, none of my furniture is 'cheap' quality- it's all Drexel Counterpoint from 1956 and 1957 by John Van Koert (which is worth in the tens of thousands nowadays- even in the 50s people paid more than I did for it- new Drexel is also outrageously expensive) but I managed to get it all for under $800 over the last few years. A lot of people genuinely don't know what they have, especially when it comes to Mid Century Mod furniture as it's only just recently made a resurgence with the popularity of 'Mad Men'.

                If you scour the Flea Markets, Craigslist, Yardsales, Estate Sales etc and know which high quality brands you're looking for, you can often get real bargains. Obviously, sometimes people know what they have and price accordingly, but I've been lucky!

                Even though I think it's somewhat unethical to 'rip people off' (ie: spend $100 for a buffet that retails at around $4000 in a high end mid century antiques for) it's not like I'm buying it to sell. It's nice knowing the real value, but I have bought it all to use, love and live with.

                Second hand furniture does NOT have to mean cheap quality or shabby. You just really have to know what you're looking for, know your bands, and hone into deals when you see them! Also, don't be afraid to haggle. If someone either on Craigslist or at a Flea Market has more than one item that you want- you can more often than not get a discount for taking more than one thing off their hands

                Hope that helps!
                Yeah, thanks!

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                • #9
                  I'm not debt free -- and I'm proud of it!

                  I have a mortgage for a number of reasons (described in a previous thread) that make a lot of sense for me.

                  I have no other debt, but I do have a mortgage and I'm planning on keeping it for a nice long while!

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                  • #10
                    Originally posted by Ramose View Post
                    I am currently studying and have a HECS debt (it's actually called a HELP debt now). I use a debit card so I can buy things online without using credit. I feel like when I buy a house I will have almost no money after buying furniture. Did you all just buy really cheap second hand furniture?
                    We did when we bought our first home in our 20's. We also took any handme-downs family offered. Used furniture can be far nicer and better constructed than a lot of the newer stuff. Now being lots older we have a mix of some very nice antiques and newer furniture.
                    Last edited by Blessed; 10-22-2012, 06:50 AM.

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                    • #11
                      Originally posted by BuckyBadger View Post
                      I'm not debt free -- and I'm proud of it!

                      I have a mortgage for a number of reasons (described in a previous thread) that make a lot of sense for me.

                      I have no other debt, but I do have a mortgage and I'm planning on keeping it for a nice long while!
                      Bucky we all do what is best for us individually. We all know our own situation best. I on the other plan am very proud to be debt free. I like the security part of it. I'm not sure I would feel that way though if we didn't also have a lot of liquid assets. I wouldn't want no liquid cash. I think it is important personally to have a fully funded emergency fund before you wipe out the mortgage.
                      Last edited by Blessed; 10-22-2012, 06:53 AM.

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                      • #12
                        It sounds obvious, and easier said than done, but the best way to be debt free is don't go into debt to begin with!

                        I went to a state college, which my parents could afford to pay for. I hear so many stories now about graduates with huge student loans.

                        I chose a profession that pays pretty well and has generally been in demand.
                        I live in an affluent part of an expensive state, but it's far enough away from the cities that it's not as expensive, and I've always found work in commutable distance.

                        I never ran up credit card debt.
                        I haven't had a car payment for 15 years.
                        I budget and save up for purchases like cars and home improvements.
                        For various non-financial reasons, I never had kids.
                        It took 3 houses and 20 years, but I paid off the mortgage with investment proceeds before the big market dip. I also got shorter term mortgages with less principal with each house.

                        I've had some family money & insurance help, but the lumps I've taken along the way balanced that out. I've lost money on houses, been unemployed, had an ex who ran up huge credit card debt, and had to settle a divorce.

                        Nobody said it was easy!

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                        • #13
                          Pure opinion, but I owned a home in St. Louis County for 3 years. There is a reason that some things in life are cheap To each their own, however. Location of where I live is the one thing in life that I will allow myself to splurge on. Far be it for me to know what makes people happy, but for me being debt free wasn't worth living somewhere that I was miserable.

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                          • #14
                            My wife and I paid off our home somewhere around 2004, which was the only debt we had. Two main reasons we were able to do so:
                            • above average salary
                            • live well within our means

                            To the OP - now that you're debt free, continue to live frugally and save, save, save. You'll be retiring early!
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                            • #15
                              Originally posted by Gina23 View Post
                              Pure opinion, but I owned a home in St. Louis County for 3 years. There is a reason that some things in life are cheap To each their own, however. Location of where I live is the one thing in life that I will allow myself to splurge on. Far be it for me to know what makes people happy, but for me being debt free wasn't worth living somewhere that I was miserable.


                              Couldn't you be debt free in your current location if you wished to eventually? I live in a very nice location with acres of private woods right in the city limit. I don't want anyone to think one has to live in or anywhere sub-standard to be debt free. We also owned a mini farm debt free. For us it was simply a choice to conserve in some areas that were not important to us( fancy meals out, expensive clothes, overseas travel etc) at the time to put us in the position to be debt free.

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