Obama or McCain

[zooracer]

If you read my posts McCain is one heartbeat away from death. 4x he's had cancer. What happens if it reoccurs and he's incapacitated? His VP pick is essential.

I didn't vote for Obama, I voted Hillary. Obama is too moderate for me :P

So I wasn't keen on Obama to begin with. I felt him too young and honestly somewhat shady.

Like I said I was listening to McCain about his "inexperience" comments. I felt he was more experienced than Obama, especially with Obama not making firm statements about what he beleived in and wanted to do.

I would likely have been more swayed to McCain if he had picked someone like Lieberman or Romney. Something that showed his backbone in bucking his party.

That independence, which attracted independent voters, and Obama's inexperience would have done it for me. But instead he panders to the conservative base and in doing so I think made it impossible to even consider voting for him.

Now it's keeping McCain out rather than really supporting Obama. Before it was keeping Obama out.

So you are saying that Obama is too moderate for you?

Yet, you still would have considered McCain!?

I have to still wonder why this matters to you so much. I'm guessing you never would have voted for McCain if Obama is too moderate...

[jIM_Ohio]

If you read my posts McCain is one heartbeat away from death. 4x he's had cancer. What happens if it reoccurs and he's incapacitated? His VP pick is essential.

I didn't vote for Obama, I voted Hillary. Obama is too moderate for me :P

So I wasn't keen on Obama to begin with. I felt him too young and honestly somewhat shady.

Like I said I was listening to McCain about his "inexperience" comments. I felt he was more experienced than Obama, especially with Obama not making firm statements about what he beleived in and wanted to do.

I would likely have been more swayed to McCain if he had picked someone like Lieberman or Romney. Something that showed his backbone in bucking his party.

That independence, which attracted independent voters, and Obama's inexperience would have done it for me. But instead he panders to the conservative base and in doing so I think made it impossible to even consider voting for him.

Now it's keeping McCain out rather than really supporting Obama. Before it was keeping Obama out.

I am heartbeat away from death and do not consider a candidate's age if he is the one I trust with the important decisions. Reagan had some alzheimer's issues his second term and the country did not stop functioning. LBJ took over for Kennedy and the country kept moving along.

I actually think having a VP which is inexperienced helps in this case- because the VP would need to use the same advisors as McCain to prevent any hiccups so the policies would not change much if a presidential change was made mid term.

I vote based on how I think person would react in a 9/11 type situation. That is McCain without any doubt- I might like policies of one better than the other, but Congress has as much to do with policy as the President- with exception of budget- President tends to have control over that more than most other issues.

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I vote based on how I think person would react in a 9/11 type situation. That is McCain without any doubt- I might like policies of one better than the other, but Congress has as much to do with policy as the President- with exception of budget- President tends to have control over that more than most other issues.

I don't know why you would base your vote on a single issue, but that's another subject...

Please explain why you think McCain would be best in a "9/11 type situation".

[LivingAlmostLarge]

I don't really like Obama and would have voted mccain because of national security as well and experience.

Problem before Sarah Palin? It wasn't a vote for mccain so much as a vote not for obama. did you read my post? NOT for obama.

But now I can't bear the thought of McCain dying and Palin being in charge. No choice for abortions, no sex education, drilling all over the Alaska, no scientific research, no teaching of evolution.

Yep sounds promising. By the way during tonight's speech just now, Palin talked about 1 policy! ENERGY!

Do you know what she said? We need to get off of our dependence on foreign oil. To do this we need to drill Alaska, we have TONS of oil! I know this because I'm alaskan. We need to stop using foreign oil and use Domestic oil!

Gee, she can't talk any other topics because she doesn't know foreign policy, national security, or the economy. And apparently she thinks fossil fuels are unlimited as well. Also currently our top oil importer is Canada, not exactly that foreign, but oh well. Crude Oil and Total Petroleum Imports Top 15 Countries

Oh and her earlier statements about an all US oil pipeline? It's not exactly possible since Alaska doesn't join the 48 states. But then she said she meant to say with Canada's approval. Sigh.

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But now I can't bear the thought of McCain dying and Palin being in charge. No choice for abortions, no sex education, drilling all over the Alaska, no scientific research, no teaching of evolution.

The criminalization of abortion would take place regardless of the GOP VP selection, if McCain gets elected. Whether he would die in office or not, the next couple supreme court appointments would be very conservative.

I believe the same could be said for abstinence-only eduction, but I'm not positive (I'm not familiar with McCain's position on this issue). One of the things (there are many) that drive me crazy with regard to the current administration is the tax dollars that are spent on faith-based initiatives. Really makes my blood boil - government and religion are supposed to be separate.

[LivingAlmostLarge]

Actually if we keep a democratic Congress the picks could be forced to be more moderate. Depend though on who controls congress and by how much.

[zooracer]

I don't really like Obama and would have voted mccain because of national security as well and experience.

Problem before Sarah Palin? It wasn't a vote for mccain so much as a vote not for obama. did you read my post? NOT for obama.

But now I can't bear the thought of McCain dying and Palin being in charge. No choice for abortions, no sex education, drilling all over the Alaska, no scientific research, no teaching of evolution.

Yep sounds promising. By the way during tonight's speech just now, Palin talked about 1 policy! ENERGY!

Do you know what she said? We need to get off of our dependence on foreign oil. To do this we need to drill Alaska, we have TONS of oil! I know this because I'm alaskan. We need to stop using foreign oil and use Domestic oil!

Gee, she can't talk any other topics because she doesn't know foreign policy, national security, or the economy. And apparently she thinks fossil fuels are unlimited as well. Also currently our top oil importer is Canada, not exactly that foreign, but oh well. Crude Oil and Total Petroleum Imports Top 15 Countries

Oh and her earlier statements about an all US oil pipeline? It's not exactly possible since Alaska doesn't join the 48 states. But then she said she meant to say with Canada's approval. Sigh.

Well, now I have to ask...

Why not Obama?

I mean from what you have said on here, Obama is not really even an option for you.
You say that Hillary was your candidate. Hillary is a democrat. Obama is a democrat. They have lots in common...much more in common than not.

So, why was Obama SUCH a bad choice for you that you were going to actually cross over to voting Republican? There must be some BIG problems with Obama for you to do this...

The funny thing is, many republicans are voting for McCain only because they do not want Obama in office...not because they like McCain. But, just because they didnt get their candidate, like romney or huckabee, sure doesnt mean they are going to vote for Obama!?

Obama is completely opposite from what McCain believes in...

So, you might now understand why some people would wonder about your honesty here...

[LivingAlmostLarge]

I disliked his shadiness and felt he was very young. I still do. I didn't really care about McCain it was more like screw the democratic party after hillary didn't get the nod. Why not?

That I was going to write in her name.

Right now something I think might have been good for McCain is Ron Paul. He's getting a lot of independent voters, I don't agree with him but I think he's fresh and exciting and different.

[zooracer]

I disliked his shadiness and felt he was very young. I still do. I didn't really care about McCain it was more like screw the democratic party after hillary didn't get the nod. Why not?

That I was going to write in her name.

Right now something I think might have been good for McCain is Ron Paul. He's getting a lot of independent voters, I don't agree with him but I think he's fresh and exciting and different.

I like Ron Paul...but I think he will never have a chance. Too many barriers put up by the mainstream media and mainstream politicians.

I actually didnt mind the clinton years, as a mostly republican congress meant there was a lot of deadlock...so spending was curtailed...which I like.

I'm considering just writing in Paul or voting for the libertarian candidate...we'll see

[LivingAlmostLarge]

I felt that if McCain wanted to draw in disillusioned Hillary supporters and independent voters, he should have stuck to his guns and gone with Lieberman.

If he had picked someone like Ron Paul I would still have considered McCain a maverick, moderate free thinker!

But he goes and panders to the conservative right. Plus Obama isn't the best candidate. Like I said very young, no voting record, and shady.

It might have been easier for McCain to convince disillusioned voters he was more into change, more maverick and more experienced if he had gone for it.

Instead he caved and capitulated to the GOP.

[feh]

I disliked his shadiness and felt he was very young. I still do. I didn't really care about McCain it was more like screw the democratic party after hillary didn't get the nod. Why not?

Why not? Are you serious? You place so little value on your vote that you'd be willing to cast it out of spite?